Opinions of New Build

Asger_Grimrson · Feb 5, 2017

As I have finally saved up 6k to buy a computer which I can force plebeians to bask in its castigated shade, I would like opinions on my part choice, if I can improve it at all, and if water cooling is even worth my time. I have built alot of computers but never used water cooling. Thoughts?

Asger_Grimrson · Feb 5, 2017

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Asger_Grimrson/saved/bbRp99

Computers Taste Like Metal · Feb 5, 2017

I came

clarkjd · Feb 5, 2017

Why did you get two 2x8 16 GB kits instead of one 4x8, 32 gb kit? You would have an easier time getting a quad kit to work than 2 2x8 kits. Getting 4 unmatched sticks to work together, even the same brand/make/model/speed etc, is problematical at best, impossible at worst.

Asger_Grimrson · Feb 5, 2017

clarkjd :

Thanks for input, I fixed the possible issue.

MasterWigu · Feb 5, 2017

I would buy a Z270 motherboard and a new Kaby Lake CPU. Something like an Asus Z270-A and an i7 7700k if you want to stick with the white theme

Asger_Grimrson · Feb 5, 2017

MasterWigu :

Alright, I updated the list, Why do you think that, that motherboard is a better choice, The cpu i understand.

clarkjd · Feb 5, 2017

Asger_Grimrson :

Anything other than a 270 class MB would require a BIOS flash to work with Kaby lake CPUs.

Asger_Grimrson · Feb 5, 2017

clarkjd :

Asger_Grimrson :

Anything other than a 270 class MB would require a BIOS flash to work with Kaby lake CPUs.

Oh, ok cool thanks for the heads up, I have taken your advice.

kraelic · Feb 5, 2017

Jeebus, I see nothing wrong with it but why not the latest and greatest 7700k and z270? Can just imagine one of the 3x m.2 ultra slot motherboards with 3 960 evo 1TB in a raid 5 setup (speed and parity) though that would add another few hundred bucks.

MasterWigu · Feb 5, 2017

Asger_Grimrson :

I only sugested that motherboard because of the white accents and its price range, nothing special. And of course it has the Z270 chipset.

Asger_Grimrson · Feb 5, 2017

kraelic :

Welp, some of your advice ive taken already from the last guy, but im not to keen on the 960 idea.

Asger_Grimrson · Feb 5, 2017

MasterWigu :

Asger_Grimrson :

I only sugested that motherboard because of the white accents and its price range, nothing special. And of course it has the Z270 chipset.

It does look nicer I think at least, rad

kraelic · Feb 5, 2017

I was replying after seeing the 3rd post, see its changed now. Do you plan to raid the 3 ssd or just three 1tb drives? A single 960 evo still does what 1900 GBps reads which is more than the sata 550GBps per drive. Could use a single drive for OS and main programs and then use a hdd for storage.

Asger_Grimrson · Feb 5, 2017

kraelic :

I planned on at least (Because i have no experience with raid) to just have 3 1TB drives, if you could do me a favor and kind of explain what you mean more I am more than willing to listen.

kraelic · Feb 5, 2017

Raid is a method to stripe or mirror data over multiple drives. Raid 0 is not technically raid, but increases performance by splitting the data between two drives minimum but if a drive fails you lost all. Then on reads you get two drives speed delivering the data. Raid 1 is a mirror, a 1:1 copy for data safety no performance increase, but you save your data if one fails, replace the drive and it can rebuild the mirror. Raid 5 is a parity stripe, it takes 3 drives. data goes onto 1 and 2 and a parity bit on 3, then the next block of data goes on 2 and 3 and parity on 1, and then the next bit goes on 3 and 1 and parity goes onto 2. This gives the stripe speed with a one drive fault tolerance, you can replace a bad drive and the parity rebuilds the array. so the speed of two drives at the cost of one third of the storage capacity.

But for simplicity the m,2 pci express x4 drive for the OS, games, and programs and a 2tb sata hdd for storage and downloads would be easier and better.

Asger_Grimrson · Feb 5, 2017

kraelic :

Raid is a method to stripe or mirror data over multiple drives. Raid 0 is not technically raid, but increases performance by splitting the data between two drives minimum but if a drive fails you lost all. Then on reads you get two drives speed delivering the data. Raid 1 is a mirror, a 1:1 copy for data safety no performance increase, but you save your data if one fails, replace the drive and it can rebuild the mirror. Raid 5 is a parity stripe, it takes 3 drives. data goes onto 1 and 2 and a parity bit on 3, then the next block of data goes on 2 and 3 and parity on 1, and then the next bit goes on 3 and 1 and parity goes onto 2. This gives the stripe speed with a one drive fault tolerance, you can replace a bad drive and the parity rebuilds the array. so the speed of two drives at the cost of one third of the storage capacity.

But for simplicity the m,2 pci express x4 drive for the OS, games, and programs and a 2tb sata hdd for storage and downloads would be easier and better.

Ok so what storage choices would you say I should get in place of the 3 SSDs I have in the current list.

kraelic · Feb 5, 2017

A single 960 evo 1TB m.2 and a 2TB WD or seagate platter hdd is what I would do.

Asger_Grimrson · Feb 5, 2017

kraelic :

Alright, I have updated the list.

clarkjd · Feb 5, 2017

The 212 EVO comes with a decent thermal compound. There is really no need for the TX-4 thermal compound.
Also, I would recommend a WD Caviar Black drive over the Seagate, I have 3 WD drives, including a 74GB, 10000RPM Raptor drive from the mid-ninetys that has been running 24/7/367 since I got it without a moments trouble. When I tried a Seagate drive, I had to RMA it and the one they sent to replace it. :pfff:

Never again.

lakimens · Feb 5, 2017

Did nobody seriously come to thing of the cheap cooler in a $6k build?
Get yourself an AIO or a good AIR cooler like a Noctua NH-D15.
I suggest a big water cooler like Cooler Master Seidon 240L.

clarkjd · Feb 5, 2017

lakimens :

What is wrong with the 212 EVO, other than being inexpensive? It is, and has been one of the best "bang for the Buck" air coolers out there, even outperforming or at least matching some AIO water coolers..

Asger_Grimrson · Feb 5, 2017

clarkjd :

Fixed it, thank you kindly.

Asger_Grimrson · Feb 5, 2017

All this talk of coolers, I have used the 212 EVO, but what of these other options, ive been hearing about.

lakimens · Feb 5, 2017

clarkjd :

What "bang for the buck"? This is a $6k build, you have to put the best cooler in there.

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