Amazon scam targeting high end graphics cards

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Not sure if Graphics Cards is the right bit of the forum for this, but as the tomshardware.com forums have given me so much over the years I thought I'd give something back...

Fraudsters are either setting up Amazon marketplace stores or hijacking existing stores then listing products at significant discounts to list prices with text like "We cannot deliver to all areas. Please email us at info[at]ddd484.com to see if we can deliver to you." in some aspect of the listing. An unsuspecting customer will order and then be contacted by the "seller" to suggest alternate methods of payment when it becomes apparent that the transaction won't work on Amazon. Some more info in the links below...

https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2017/01/12/amazon-scammers-hijack-seller-accounts/

https://wirednot.wordpress.com/2015/05/01/the-curious-case-of-bogus-amazon-sellers/


I attempted to purchase a Zotac AMP Extreme GTX 1080 for c.£430 today as I was under the impression that they'd just accidentally priced a 1080 as 1070. The giveaway was that when I purchased the card earlier in the day there were maybe 80 listings on the Marketplace store, however when I returned later to see if they'd sold out of cards at this mad price, the storefront was now listing over 250 pages of products, mostly relating to high end electronics...and all at deeply discounted prices.

Naturally I'd never agree to a transaction away from Amazon/via some third party, however if I'd not gone back later to see if anyone had bought the cards I probably wouldn't have noticed the crazy number of SKUs placed on the storefront and become suspicious. A GTX 1080 at £430 is REALLY cheap, but not beyond possibility. I did come to my senses when I saw an Nvidia Quadro P6000 going for £600 though ;-)

If it sounds too good to be true it probably is! Hope this helps someone out there.



 

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Yeah...and CPUs and TVs and cameras...anything that's easily identifiable via a product spec sheet and available from lots of vendors. I think the game is to use low pricing to get the listing to the top of the Amazon Marketplace pricing table. As scams go it's quite sophisticated...I'd be impressed if I wasn't so annoyed that I'm not getting a 1080 for around £400!
 
I've seen it on other products as well. It's just mind boggling because the scam is so obvious it doesn't make sense how it's able to stay up on Amazon for more than a few hours without Amazon noticing. Unless of course Amazon isn't looking at all.
 
I too have noticed a lot of shady listings on Amazon lately myself. While looking for used or refurbished GPUs, I've noticed a few of the sellers instructing you to contact them BEFORE buying. Funny, I just went and looked for some 1070s and 1080s and do not see any of those shady listings any more. Maybe Amazon is starting to crack down on them?
 
This is nothing new in any way shape or form

If it does not come from amazon directly, and is not prime eleigable then would avoid buying any high demand item. For really offbeat items then it is likely ok, but certinaly not mainstream electronics.

Then there is the simple rule - if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. No one is giong to sell a $600 GPU for $400 unless it is broken or a scam.
 


I agree its been going on. And yes, I also agree with the "if it's too good to be true, it probably is" deal, but we should NOT have to worry about this type of crap from a major player like Amazon, or any other major online store for that matter. I look for the ships and sold by Amazon when browsing for an item, especially high-dollar items.

I've bought most of my stuff from Newegg, but I guess you could get screwed there as well if you're not careful.

 

Newegg has listings from 3rd party sellers too. The difference is Newegg makes it simple to filter them out - you just limit the seller to Newegg.

Amazon has no such option.

Also, the "ships and sold by Amazon" doesn't protect you quite as much as you'd think. Amazon also has a "sold by XYZ, ships from Amazon" program. Sellers in these programs pre-ship some of their inventory to Amazon, who stores it and ships it out when you buy the product.

The problem appears to be that Amazon co-mingles some of that inventory with their regular inventory. So if you buy a USB flash drive that's "ships and sold by Amazon", Amazon's warehouse robot may notice that the same flash drive is in company XYZ's inventory and is closer. So it grabs that one and sends it to you instead of one that Amazon got from its distributor. If company XYZ isn't as diligent in vetting its distributors and got fakes, you'll get a fake USB flash drive even though you bought it from Amazon.

It's gotten bad enough that I've pretty much given up ordering frequently-counterfeited items like flash drives from Amazon. I'll pay a few extra bucks to get it from a local big-name retailer. At least then I know it came from their distributor.
 
Yes, Newegg has Marketplace sellers, and I have actually ordered from them. But most of the Marketplace sellers are from major companies you're already familiar with, such as Cryorig, BeQuiet!, Phanteks and such. Not saying they're all well known brands. though.

And if it says it is shipped and sold by Amazon, you would probably be taken care of it there were to be a problem with your order, at least I would think so.

We're all vulnerable to being suckered by the cons out there, no matter how careful we think we are. It's really ashame.
 

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I use 'Amazon.com' for some of my purchases but one thing to keep in mind is that 'Amazon.com' has now become the 'Walmart" of the Internet.
Many of their items are sold (like Walmart) as knockoffs, seconds, or discontinued items. Some of the major companies have started to put disclaimers on their web pages letting customers know that they do not sell on 'Amazon.com' and if any of their branded items are listed on 'Amazon.com', be aware that those items are not genuine.
 

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It's really not a big deal. You always get your money back if you purchase from a scam listing so buy away! Amazon has amazing customer service and support. I've purchased many items that I knew to be scams just to buy up the inventory so others won't be able to buy and I've never had an issue. :D
 

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To date, I think I've ordered about 15 AMP!'s, about 10 AMP! EXTREME's, and 5 ARCTIC models. I've not lost a penny and the listings disappear. I just hope that one time at least a single card would show up at my door. Sadly, it hasn't happened yet. :(