New build. Having BSOD issues. Pretty bad.

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Specs:

Asus z170A motherboard
i5-6600k
cooler master evo 212
2x8gb Crucial DDR4 2133 RAM
MSI 1070 8gb
Samsung EVO 850 ssd
Seagate Barracuda 2tb internal
TP-link wireless adaptor

Ok, so here's the deal. I fought for a while to install Win 10 (previous post) and I finally figured out that the problem was having both the SSD and HDD connected at once. Removed SSD and successfully installed win10, then connected and set up HDD as well. Everything was working so I thought I was set, closed up the case and the computer worked the whole night.

Now today I get home and I start getting BSODs again. I think there was some issue with drivers: my computer was warning me that there was an Nvidia driver problem and indeed my screen on a few occasions weirdly went very dark.

Ok, so I uninstalled the nvidia driver as soon as I successfully booted into win10, then reinstalled latest. Computer was running fine, but wireless was crap, so on Ethernet I tried downloading drivers for the TP-link since apparently it doesn't have win10 drivers. I tried the drivers for the Archer TE9 (amazon review said this would work for my WDN4800 model). Bad idea - I click setup and instant BSOD. Now I've been getting BSODs non-stop. Since then what I've tried:

Remove TP-link from PCIe - no fix
Boot from usb - won't even POST and keyboard and mouse get disconnected??
Remove SSD, put in HDD (no windows install) and boot from USB - same thing
Remove 1070 - no change

Then I tried switching the two RAM sticks to the other two slot, connecting SSD (has win10) and disconnected from Ethernet. Windows booted. I immediately started a memory diagnostics (windows tool, not memtest) and here I am watching it run. It's doing only 2 passes, at 55% complete, hasn't found any issues.

Right now it's just my MOBO, CPU+cooler, RAM, SSD hooked up.

Please help! I don't know what's happening. I assume it's a software issue but this is my first build so I'm terrified that it's a hardware issue e.g. motherboard or cpu...
 
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Ah, Paul to the rescue again. I'm a little scared of connecting the computer to the internet in the off-chance that some kind of automatic driver download utility is screwing me over, but I can try. I'd need to carry my computer over to the router - does the file get saved on the SSD somewhere so that I can shut off my computer and access it again? Very basic question, sorry.

Also at 92% with no detected problems right now.
 
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So the memory diagnostics finished with no error. I'm currently in windows looking at the event manager. The detailed view of the file doesn't say basically anything, it's just

Event ID 1201
Version 0
Task 0
Opcode 0
Keywords 0x8000000000000000
Time created
EventRecordID 1649
Correlation
Execution
ProcessID 4100
ThreadID 4104
Channel System
Computer Banana
CompletionType Pass

But I forgot to mention one fairly important (?) thing that occured; at some point, I don't remember exactly what led up to it but I know that it happened when I opened task manager, my CPU shot up to 100% and stayed there for an extended period. I haven't overclocked it but it was reading ~4GHz when it's supposed to be at 3.5GHz. Not familiar enough with computers to know how big a deal that is. Computer gave BSOD shortly after. This was earlier in the night, after the BSODs started happening.
 
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Yes this is the same system that was crashing before. I'm not super experienced with computers so it took me a while to find the .dmp files. I see them now. I'll upload them as soon as I can connect to the internet again, though I have to move everything back over there so it'll take a few minutes. Be back soon.
 
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Hi Paul, I tried hooking up the computer and I get BSODs. I unplugged the ethernet as the computer was restarting and it booted properly, though with two errors: MSUSCuiL and rtkngui64 failed to run.

So the BSODs are somehow linked to being connected to the internet? EDIT; well, if I can't get online on that computer I currently have no way to even open the files, and I don't have a usb on me to transfer the files right now. So it seems I'm locked out of them...
 
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Update with just a bit more info, I tried putting in the USB installation disk with no ethernet to see if I could get to the "repair windows" option. BSOD. I plugged in HDD and removed USB installation disk and it booted up, no error message.

Also, every now and then my computer seems to be making a sound, very similar sounding to a camera shutter clicking. What does that mean?
 
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This is the case https://sta3-nzxtcorporation.netdna-ssl.com/uploads/download/attachment/488/S340-manual-multi-language-5.pdf As far as I can tell it came with the standoffs already installed. Thought now that I'm looking back over it I'm a bit concerned: I have in a bag that says "standoff" a little two-piece screw it seems. This seems to correspond to "H" on the case diagram. If this needed to be installed, I didn't do that. I definitely remember all the "G" screws being pre-installed. I was screwing the motherboard into screws, not into the case itself.
 
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Yea, now my computer won't boot at all. Can get into BIOS but BSODs before loading windows. I can't get to the dmp files...

The problem can't be solely in windows, right? Because that's installed on my SSD and I tried running the USB installer with only my HDD connected. Though I guess if the installer were corrupted that could be the case. But then why would it have installed in the first place? If it's a driver...what driver? The MOBO is up to date and I've uninstalled and removed the GPU.

Anyway it's 430 in california and I gotta be up in 3 hours so I'm calling it a night. I'll get back at it tomorrow.
 
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I would start all over again

Make sure the ssd is the only hdd connected. Reinstall windows. where did the install for Win10 come from this time?

I would get the mediacreation tool download the ISO then use rufus to put it on a flash drive. Select GPT before you add the ISO

Install the chipset drivers, the Asmedia 3.1 drivers, the sata drivers, the drivers for the videocard from the MSI site not from Nvidia.

Do a custom install of the video drivers. Just the drivers and HDMI audio

Untick everything else.

Dont install any ASUS programs, like AIcharger or ASUS Suite. Or any overclocking programs

Only thing they'll do is crash the system

The less crap you install, the better
 
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I'd try this but I'm locked out of the system as of the last time I tried. BSODs before windows can boot, BSOD if I try to entire recovery, BSOD if I try the installation USB.

Tonight ill swap out the current ram sticks with new ram, just maybe thatll allow me to repair windows from USB finally. I also have a second bootable usb I can test.

Other than that I'm not sure what I can do if I cant get into windows or recovery mode or reinstall...
 
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Right, I mean I get BSOD before it can load the installer from the usb. I tried disconnecting the SSD that had the OS, connecting the HDD and plugging in the install usb and same issue.

The first memory diagnostics tests I ran found issues, though I didnt run them fully. Yesterday I ran two passes using the windows tool with both sticks in and it found nothing. Will first just try replacing the memory w the new sticks since thats much faster than like 12 hours of memory tests, right?
 
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Hey Paul and anyone watching,

I was just googling and realized that I installed my RAM in non-dual-channel mode. The z170a motherboard recommends installing A1 to B1 and A2 to B2, I at first had the RAM in A1 and A2, then I moved them to B1 and B2. Could this have been causing an issue?

I won't be able to test until much later unfortunately, just gathering ideas right now.
 
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Hi Paul and anyone reading.

I just swapped out the RAM with two new sticks, this time in the correct dual-channel configuration. Everything works fine (Though I'm not gonna try the wireless adaptor or ASUS suite again...pretty sure it was one of those two that led to the BSOD cascade. I did a reinstall of Windows 10, then realized I have to also format and reinstall everything on the HDD. Unfortunate, but whatever; reinstalled and everything is working fine.

So anyway, the issue is, I guess, resolved, though I don't still understand exactly what was wrong. I'm thinking that it was a combination of bad RAM and something getting screwed up in Windows with drivers.

Anyway at this point I'm expecting that I'm going to have my computer fail again in some confusing way, so I'll probably be posting here again soon enough. Thank you paul for all your help, again.
 
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