is a i3 7350k fully overclocked on water a bottleneck for 1060 6gb?

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Dustybin

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Personally I think the i3-7350K is a complete waste of money at its current price point. Reviews have pointed out that in most applications it performs worse than a i5-7400 even when over clocked to 5Ghz. You could get the i5 for $13 according to PC part picker, in fact if you just used stock cooling you could get it for less as you wouldn't need to buy an after market cooler.

To answer your question though the i3 will hit your fps a little when compared to running with an i5/i7 but an i3 and a 1060 is a pretty good match in a gaming rig.
 
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Do you need 32GB RAM? It won't make any difference when gaming. Does it need to be DDR4-3200Mhz? It won't make a difference when gaming. Unless you are using an program which needs high speed memory. You will get no advantage over DDR4-2133/2400.

Do you need water cooling? Although it sounds nifty. Air cooling will do nearly as good. Perhaps a difference of 0.1 to 0.2Ghz. An i7-7700K on air will dominate an i3-7350K on water. Except on single or dual core tasks. Plus you always have the risk of leaks.

As for the GPU. A Radeon Rx 480 8GB is extremely close on average to the GeForce GTX 6GB. But costs a fair amount less in your country.

If you make these changes. You could easily go with a Core i7-7700K. Then if you feel like upgrading the RAM later on or the cooling you can do so. As you are adding parts rather than replacing parts. You save more in the long term. Except for the loss of a cheaper heatsink. Which you could always transfer to another computer.

This build is cheaper. The CPU is considerably faster. While the difference in gaming would be very similar. In the increasing number of multi-threaded CPU intensive titles. The i7-7700K will provide a large boost in FPS. It leaves you room to put in either the RAM, liquid cooling or GTX 1060 6GB you desire. Perhaps skip those and install an SSD for your boot drive and apps. Maybe even an NVMe model.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HYnq7h
 
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madmatt30

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Build makes no sense at all - zero !!

Same price

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($312.98 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 240M 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($137.50 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($139.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($173.98 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($115.98 @ NCIX)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($517.98 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($159.99 @ NCIX)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit ($129.98 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1817.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-08 11:03 EST-0500
 
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James Mason

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Yeah, matt's is far better. Though I'd probably get like an $70-100 air cooler instead:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/4vzv6h/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/9bFPxr/be-quiet-cpu-cooler-bk019
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/YwGkcf/be-quiet-cpu-cooler-bk018

to save some money.
 
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thx everyone this is my revised list for starters.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/wGvFxY

I want to do some autocad at a later date when I will upgrade my ram,cpu and graphics card.
But I think this product exists for me. its my upgrade path. And if the i3 can handle the rx480 its most titles than Im fine with the overcharge on the processor.
This seems the most upgradable path for me.
So this is the 200 series you were talking about right i can use an i3 and switch to i7?

Can I install the same windows on different cpus?
 
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velocityg4

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To each their own. Yes, you can upgrade from the i3 to the i7. Yes, you can use the same Windows license when you upgrade the CPU.
 
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madmatt30

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your build is still making no sense whatsoever mate,youre spending $360 on an unlocked i3 & an aio - its a pointless buy & not worth the money.
Id take a locked i5 with a stock cooler over that any day of the week.
The WD red is not a drive you want to use for anything other than video/audio storage for nas use or for surveillance systems - its slow.

@jamas mason - yes I considered taking the AIO out,Im not a fan of them anyway personally,I see literally no reason for water cooling at all unless people are running combined cpu/gpu custom loops.
Some people though just MUST have them in their build,aesthetically theyre nicer but thats about it.


 
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David_24

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you just gotta remember that I'm saving money by only buying some items once. Like the aio and the case. and the motherboard. Otherwise id be buying 2 completely different computers instead of a clean upgrade.

I just refuse to buy more cpu than my graphics card is using at this time. and i wanna keep it on the upgrade path im using.

can you recomend a hard drive for me then?

thx for your help.

 
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If you're planning on getting an i7 eventually, you can get an i7 7700 + h270 mobo right now for cheaper than your planned i3 build. I know you think you're saving money in the long run and/or that the extra money you're spending is worth it for providing an upgrade path, but that's simply not the case.

Also, AIO's have a finite lifespan, so I wouldn't justify the cost by thinking you're going to get years and years of performance out of it.
 
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madmatt30

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I understand what you're saying but youre still not making good use of your budget.
For the sake of it again - this build contains a fully fledged i5,a 525gb m2 ssd & twice the ram - for $5 less.
Yes ive dropped the water cooler because its plainly unnecessary until/if you do upgrade to an unlocked i7.
A locked i5 7500 is a far far better buy than than unlocked i3 which is essentially a sales gimmick to counteract the loss of sales on the i3 6100,6300,7100,7300 that has been caused by the drop of the 2 hyperthreaded pentiums.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($260.98 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($173.98 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($115.98 @ NCIX)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 8GB GAMING X Video Card ($329.53 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($179.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($143.80 @ DirectCanada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit ($129.98 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1624.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-08 11:48 EST-0500
 
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madmatt30

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I forgot - I alredy recommended the storage which I put the tosh drive in the builds - its the right balance of performance ,noise & reliability & price.
I own 6 of these drives myself & theyre just rock solid - stay clear of 4tb drives becasue theyre comparitively awful value.
 
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David_24

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okay i'll go with the locked i5 and the tosh drive.
Can someone recommend a quiet air cooler that I can use to overclock an i7 a little bit. That won't keep me from having decent sized ram. I want to buy some of corsair 2800 or 3000 for my autocad later on. Corsair is the shortest ram with the highest speed right? This is why I need to keep the motherboard I have selected. unless theres a cheaper 200 that I can overclock on.
i dont care about the cost of the cooler.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jYgyyf
 
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