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I've was told to upgrade my PSU, so now I have an adequate PSU. Now I am wondering on the complete steps to overclock my AMD FX-8300. I want to get to around 4.2 GHZ and it comes at 3.3 GHZ. I would really like a complete guide how to overclock, stress test/stability test because I don't want to take any steps in the wrong direction.

SSD: Faspeed F510 120G
HDD: WD 1TB
CPU: AMD FX 8-Core Black Edition FX-8300 3.3 GHz with 4.2 GHz Turbo Octa core Processor
CPU FAN: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
MOBO: MSI 970A SLI Krait Edition
GPU: EVGA Geforce GTX 1060 SC 3GB (single fan)
RAM: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) - 8GB
CASE: NZXT Hush
PSU: Cooler Master Real Power Pro Series 750W
OS: Microsoft 10 Professional 64 bit


Thanks.
 
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Which would be the safest overclock without my board catching on fire?
 


There is no fire issue. Your board will shut down to prevent damage before the MOSFETs (a vital part of the VRMs) reach 130C since they're rated for 135C continuous voltage output.

Just go as far as you can before you start getting instabilities or it seems to start slowing down. The VRMs will not literally just explode. They'll start to throttle which will reduce CPU input voltage in an effort to reduce MOSFET heat output and cool them back down. When this happens, the CPU may suddenly slow down unexpectedly. This behavior tells you that your OC is too aggressive for the board, but does not indicate damage to the board. You'd really have to try if you wanted your VRMs to actually fail. Stay under 1.4V and you should be fine.

If I had to take a guess, I'd say around 3.8GHz will be the maximum OC that doesn't crash.
 

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I am at 3.8GHZ with 1.21 volts right now. Playing ARK and I am seeing temps of about 29 C. Do you think I should go higher?

 


Games are not an accurate stress testing platform. How to stress test:
1) Download and install AIDA64 Extreme https://www.aida64.com/downloads/latesta64xe use the download.aida64.com location for security sake
2) Drop down the Tools menu across the top, select System Stability Test and take a moment to familiarize yourself with the layout. (general directions below)
3) Check everything except for Local Disk and run the test for at least an hour. If something goes wrong, AIDA64 may stop the test by itself. If an error occurs and the test does not automatically stop, just press Stop at the bottom left.

How to read the information offered by AIDA64 Extreme System Stability Test:
1) CPU Usage and Throttling Graph. This graph is shown at the bottom of all tabs except for the Statistics tab. This graph shows current CPU usage and CPU throttling. It is natural that this graph moves faster than the other graphs because it takes information at a faster rate. CPU Usage (default: yellow) when the test is running should be at least 99%. CPU Throttling (default: green) should always be at 0%. CPU Throttling monitors a behavior known as thermal throttling. If thermal throttling occurs, your CPU is getting too hot. If throttling occurs: stop the test within a minute and shut down to allow the system to cool off. Back off on your OC settings and try again.
2) Temperatures tab. This graph shows current temperatures of all major system devices. Sometimes AIDA64 doesn't recognize your graphics card right away. To get it to show on the Temperatures tab, select Preferences across the bottom, drop down whatever color line you wish to represent the GPU and select the GPU. Press OK and the GPU will begin displaying in the Temperatures tab.
3) Cooling Fans tab. This graph shows information about the current speed of system fans. Mine often tells me that my CPU fan is running at upwards of 10,000 RPM (it exceeds the height of the graph) so I'm not really too sure if this is a bug with my BIOS not wishing to report CPU fan RPM or if this tab just isn't very accurate.
4) Voltages tab. This graph shows current system voltages as measured by sensors on the motherboard. CPU Core voltage is the only one that should be trusted because the other sensors on motherboards are not accurate. BIOS gets its information from these sensors as well so it shouldn't be considered accurate either. If you wish to know PSU output voltages, use a multimeter to directly connect to the PSU and measure output voltage at a hardware level.
5) Clocks tab. This graph shows information about the current clock speed of system devices measured in MHz (1GHz=1,000MHz). This graph sometimes doesn't show all relevant information by default. Press Preferences across the bottom and navigate to the Clocks tab within Preferences. Drop down the desired color and set it to the desired device just like with the Temperatures tab. Press OK to begin showing changes.
6) Statistics tab. This tab does not show the CPU Usage and Throttling graph. This tab shows a roundup of all information gathered so far in terms of current, minimum, maximum and average values.

Your CPU's maximum allowed temperature is 55C on the CPU and 61C on the core. Anything below this is acceptable. Note that some motherboards will begin CPU throttling before it gets all the way up to these temperatures, so say 50C as the max temperature that your CPU would be comfortable with.
 
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Wait. 1.21V? Holy cow you won the silicon lottery. I've not seen an FX chip with such a low OC Vcore in a long time. Thanks to the unexpected high efficiency of your CPU, you will easily be able to exceed my OC expectations. My FX 8300 ran at 1.35V by default and I had little OC headroom since voltage was so high, but your CPU is doing precisely the opposite.

Congratulations on winning the silicon lottery! This is one of the best Vcores I've ever seen on that chip and I've dealt with over 300 of them.
 

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I got it down to 1.18..... I haven't stressed tested it yet, but it seems smooth haha. http://imgur.com/d8Dzc7q

Since I won the the "lottery", how much headroom do I have?
 


1) Your HT multiplier is maxed out. If you develop instabilities at higher speeds, try lowering it to 11. At speeds under your maximum OC, don't worry about it.
2) "Seems smooth" is no guarantee at all. Imagine if I judged a power supply by looking at it and seeing if it had a plug on it then just said "looks good" and gave it to you to overclock your system. What if I had given you an actual fire hazard? Always test your hardware (or look up professional reviews in the case of power supplies) before just assuming it's stable.
3) I can't give you an exact number. I can say that you can easily break 4GHz and still have plenty of OC potential left in the system. Whether that plenty of potential becomes 200MHz because you have to hike up the voltage or becomes 500MHz because a very minimal voltage hike is required is not something I can estimate without having the system right in front of me. Even then, I'm often wrong.

Just as something to add to your book of useless knowledge, the term "silicon lottery" refers to how CPUs are manufactured so quickly that each of them carries a unique imperfection. Whether or not the imperfection affects overclocking potential depends on where in the CPU the perfection is. I'm not too familiar with the microarchitecture of the FX lineup so I can't tell you much about how to tell where in your CPU the imperfection is. I can tell you that it's not in the logic units so there's a chance it could be in the memory controller but I'm not entirely sure. Be careful overclocking your memory when the CPU is also overclocked, just in case.
 

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Just stability tested for an hour and its stable! I experienced no throttling! I kept a constant 31 C.
Do you think I will be able to get it to a 4.2? I am going to try that tomorrow or on Tuesday. If I reach that, I probably won't go higher.

 
Whenever you dial in an OC that you're happy with and it passes the test for an hour, just let it keep going for 24h just for verification sake. It'll save you a lot of time and confusion if it fails the test rather than crashing after you already thought your OC was stable.

Go ahead and go as far as you can. I'm really impressed with the quality of your CPU so I'll be waiting for your max numbers. :)
 

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I reached 4GHZ with like 1.2250 Volts. I am actually quite happy with the outcome, but for now, I am going to keep 4GHZ and maybe in the future I will bump it up a bit. Thanks for all the help!