new to overclocking, advice please

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so i built my pc about a year and a half ago but have never messed with overclocking it till now. ive read some forums and guides about it, but they suggest changing things in small increments which i get, but starting with my core clock, im not getting any changes in my gpu temp with large changes, pretty much stops at 63 degrees, seems like thats great but i dont want to do anything to mess it up, any advice on what i should be changing would be great thanks.

Also i am using afterburner, which i believe is jsut for the gpu, and in the bios msi has oc which i think is for the cpu? right? is one more important than the other, should i be looking at different things for the two...

here is what i have...

intel i7-6700k 4.0GHz quad core
MSI Z170A Gaming M7ATX LGA1151 mobo
MSI GeForce GTX 960 4GB
32GB RAM
760W psu
 
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If your target temperature is only 60C, then you aren't really overclocking. Intel CPU is good for up to around 80C comfortably, GPUs can hang out in the low 90s without much difficulty. Though typically you want to keep the CPU in the low-mid 70s and the GPU below 85C.

The system becomes unstable when you apply too much voltage (too much heat), or exceed the frequency the silicon will run at. More voltage typically allows for higher frequencies, but there are limits in all things. The faster the CPU runs the more the transistors are in the ON state and drawing current, so even increases in frequency alone drive heat up a little bit. It is a balance between these three factors that achieves a stable overclock.

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Corsair H110i GTX 104.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
 
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okay so your set to "tune it" :) the how is will require exactly what make/model/speed of your ram, as it plays into the equation of overclocking your cpu.
there are a few overclocking googles for the 6700k I saw most are not with your board. I dont know how well your board will handle the overclocking.
before you attempt it I would look around for your board specific overclocking abilities

https://www.bing.com/search?q=overclocking+with+msi+m7atx&form=EDGTCT&qs=PF&cvid=0b6aef7778184b27b5846dd5a510d116&pq=overclocking+with+msi+m7atx&cc=US&setlang=en-US
 
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as far as the ram, i have 32GB (4x8GB) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-2400

i found a couple reviews for the motherboard which talk about their overclocking experiences/results, but tbh its way too much for me to understand lol, i was able to put a pc together just fine but as far as all these crazy details, its a little over my head

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/11/05/msi_z170a_gaming_m7_lga_1151_motherboard_review/7

http://www.overclockers.com/msi-z170a-gaming-m7-motherboard-review/


so far all ive done is messed with the gpu i believe, using afterburner, should the cpu and gpu be changed in conjunction with each other, or is doing one without the other ok, or preferred. ive also noticed when running the stress test changing the resolution is changing the fps, should i run it at full screen or the default size, default is about 75fpd and full screen in around 45. what i aslo dont get it, running the stress test through afterburner open up the kombuster furmark stress test, with those numbers i just gave, but if i open the kombustser app seperately and run the test, it runs a plasma stress test with 200fps while fullscreen...what the hell shoudl i be paying attention to here
 
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I wouldn't worry too much about the memory speed, they are no longer ganged together as hard as they were in previous Intel products.

If you just want a lazy overclock, set the CPU max multiplier higher, increase core voltage, and monitor temperatures. When the computer crashes, increase the voltage, when you reach your target (I suggest 4.5Ghz) or temperatures get too high you can stop and attempt to optimize.

Not recommended, but most gaming motherboards come with an easy button for overclocking. You can just instruct the board to run your CPU at the faster clocks. It usually over-estimates the voltage required, but as long as temperatures are good, you can do it.

(Oddly on my Z270 board, the default setting they had for 5Ghz was not far off at all, I actually went up a little bit from there)

CPUs and GPUs can be overclocked independently.
 
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what would cause the stress test to crash with the temps still only maxing out at 60 degrees, so far all ive changed is the gpu core clock, i also seem to have to restart my pc after every crash otherwise the test only runs at about half of the normal fps
 
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what will give me better results, changing the cpu or gpu, i will probably end up changing both but just curious as to which will have more effect
 
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If your target temperature is only 60C, then you aren't really overclocking. Intel CPU is good for up to around 80C comfortably, GPUs can hang out in the low 90s without much difficulty. Though typically you want to keep the CPU in the low-mid 70s and the GPU below 85C.

The system becomes unstable when you apply too much voltage (too much heat), or exceed the frequency the silicon will run at. More voltage typically allows for higher frequencies, but there are limits in all things. The faster the CPU runs the more the transistors are in the ON state and drawing current, so even increases in frequency alone drive heat up a little bit. It is a balance between these three factors that achieves a stable overclock.

Benefits from overclocking is dependent on the task the computer has to do.

In general:
When the CPU is the limiting factor it sets the Minimum observable FPS. (Graphical settings can be increased to improve image quality)
When the GPU is the limiting factor it sets the Maximum observable FPS. (Graphical settings can be reduced to increase FPS)

When everything is in balance, you will see FPS increases with both CPU and GPU improvement. Mind that overclocking isn't huge gains, maybe 5-10 FPS over a non-overclocked system with the same hardware.

 
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