Could somebody be kind enough to vet my new Budget build and see if it is feasible

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Rwanda rousey

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Pc specs:
CPU: i3 4160
Motherboard: Asus b85 pro gamer
Ram: corsair vengeance16 GB 1600mhz ddr3
Psu: Thermaltake smart se 530w
Graphics card: MSI gaming X GTX 1050 TI
Storage: 1 TB hdd + 750GB HDD
Cooling: Cryorig A40 hybrid liquid cooler
Case: Thermaltake view 27

Future upgrades:
Cpu: upgrade to i5 4460 or 4690k
Motherboard: upgrade to z97 series
Graphics card: upgrade to gtx 1070 founders edition

All criticism and comments welcome
 
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Only other one I can recommend on that site is an inbetween the two already recommended. There are a lot of PSUs out there that are not that good for their price, or are really bad because they're really cheap.

http://www.sgpcmart.com/power-supplies/super-flower-leadex-silver-90-full-modular-550w.html

The i5-4440 is like 2x the price of the i3-4160 but only like 14% better, kinda of a bad trade off.

You'd be fine with an i3-4160 and a GTX 1060 until you get a proper i5-4690, which is still only like 35% better than the i3 for 2x the price.
The 4690k is about 47% better than the i3-4160 for 2x the price, which isn't that bad for a deal at that point, but not only that, you can OC it to be about 65% better on average.
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Dogeisilluminati

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That's a great build. The 4690k (assuming that's what you mean) is an excellent CPU, I currently have one in my system. The only thing I'd change is to consider changing the PSU for the gtx 1070. Maybe equip your system with a good 600-700 watt PSU.
 
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Rwanda rousey

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tbh should i go for a i5 4460 or 4690k if i am not intending to overclock as my current motherboard is unable to overclock devils canyon cpus
 
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James Mason

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I wouldn't bother with the liquid cooler.
The i3 won't need it, so it's a waste of money right now.

It's not a particularly good PSU though, you really don't want to cheap out on the PSU as it can be the cause of a huge number of hard to diagnose problems.
If you're in the US this is a good PSU that will last for your next build as well: http://pcpartpicker.com/product/3pqdnQ/xfx-power-supply-p1550gts3x
If not, tell me where you are and I can find you one closer to you (most likely, as long as you're country isn't too obscure)

That Cryorig is a good cooler, but it really won't help you right now, wait to buy it for when you do get a 4690k, but only if you do, as it's also useless for the 4460.

It may be smarter to get the z-board now as well, because otherwise you're just gonna be throwing away a perfectly good B-board when you upgrade to the 4690k, BUT you can also get a non-k version CPU and keep using the B-board.

Also don't get a founder's edition GPU, they're only good for SLI and SLI is a dying thing, many of the aftermarket coolers (like your MSI gaming x 1050ti) are far better.

If you already have a 750gb HDD or 1tb HDD, then don't buy the one you're buying and try to get a 240-250ish SSD, for the OS and few games, it will provide a noticeably better windows experience and short level load times for games where you care how long it takes for the levels to load.
 
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Rwanda rousey

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Hi thanks so much for your input.

regarding the psu, i have actually encountered a few problems with the motherboard power connector resulting in me having to bend the power connectors at weird angles for it to supply power to my motherboard. thus i am looking to upgrade. I am actually living i Singapore which is really far from the USA and tech here is relatively expensive because of the high import costs. However this psu is still serving me well apart from these minor hiccups here and there.

As for my motherboard, I was intending to use an i5 4460 cpu because overclocking has never been a thing that stood out too much for me, also the 750gb hdd was given to me for free by a friend of mine so i decided to keep it.

As for the liquid cooler, i kind of bought it on impulse as i saw it in the bargain bin going for about $150 SGD which is really cheap for AIO liquid coolers compared to corsair's h100iv2 and i also bought it in preparation for a cpu upgrade.

for the gtx 1070 Founders Edition, I am currently contemplating between getting the 1070 amp from zotac or the 1060 non mini versions (cos those mini gpus look soooo tiny in the case) as i am only doing 1080p gaming and not intending to game on 4k anytime soon as im just a student with little to no income.

I have also heard that cpu upgrade from the i3 is heavily recommended as it will bottleneck even under the gtx 1060. if i were to prioritize, i would upgrade the cpu, followed by the gpu, followed by the psu which is as of now the least of my concern. im also trying to sell off my 1050 ti and my cpu to earn some extra cash to buy all these as they cost a bomb in my country.
 
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James Mason

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Found I think a pretty good deal on a quality PSU in singapore:
http://www.sgpcmart.com/power-supplies/Seasonic-G-550W?mfp=manufacturers[47],63f-wattage[235,236],65f-80-plus-certification[243]
Though if that's still too much this one will also be good:
http://www.sgpcmart.com/power-supplies/seasonic-s12g-450w.html?mfp=manufacturers[47],63f-wattage[235,236],65f-80-plus-certification[243]

The 1060 is the highest CPU you'd want to use with the i3, there's only a minor bottleneck there.
If you're not going to OC, then try and get the i5-4460 or i5-4670/90(no k).
If you already own the LC it's fine, but if you can return it that'd be a better use of your money as it has zero real benefit unless you're going to overclock.
Since you already have the 750gb HDD, you'd be better investing in an SSD for around the same price as the 1tb HDD because it will provide a better experience when using Windows.

The PSU is not something that is low priority, bad PSUs can cause many problems, and while your thermaltake isn't completely terrible, it's not very good either, and certainly not for a high end gaming system like you're trying to build.
The PSU is literally the heart and blood of your computer, if your heart is bad or only "meh" (like your PSU is) it's not going to be a great athlete.
 
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Rwanda rousey

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wait the i3 4160 will only slightly bottleneck on the 1060?? i've heard that i3 4160 is not even close to being ready for the 1060. as for the psu, thanks for going through all the effort to help me source one out. i will definitely give them a look see and decide if i should upgrade. i have decided to sell the 750gb hdd to buy myself a 120gb-150gb ssd for games and os. As for the cpu, if the i3 4160 will only slightly bottleneck on the 1060, then i could probably buy the 1060 first before upgrading to the i5 4690 or 4460. What do you think?

edit: could you recommend some more PSUs as i want a wider variety of choices to choose from.
 
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Rwanda rousey

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ok update: so some shady guy told me that the i5 4440 is good enough for the gtx 1060 with the only drawback being lower clock speed and will perform stably. Is any of this true?
 
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James Mason

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Only other one I can recommend on that site is an inbetween the two already recommended. There are a lot of PSUs out there that are not that good for their price, or are really bad because they're really cheap.

http://www.sgpcmart.com/power-supplies/super-flower-leadex-silver-90-full-modular-550w.html

The i5-4440 is like 2x the price of the i3-4160 but only like 14% better, kinda of a bad trade off.

You'd be fine with an i3-4160 and a GTX 1060 until you get a proper i5-4690, which is still only like 35% better than the i3 for 2x the price.
The 4690k is about 47% better than the i3-4160 for 2x the price, which isn't that bad for a deal at that point, but not only that, you can OC it to be about 65% better on average.
 
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Rwanda rousey

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yea but my current motherboard cant overclock any of the haswell cpus as only z97 series can overclock. i spoke to many tech sellers in various shops and they also agreed that the i3 4160 won't bottleneck and should be fine. As for the psu, i have gone with your suggestion and bought the seasonic PSU and is expected to arrive next week. I also sold my GTX 1050 ti to my cousin for his future pc build. Thanks for your advice James!
 
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