Is Proper 10-Series SLI POSSIBLE on Maximus VIII Hero?

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I bought a second Strix GTX 1070 Video Card for SLI, and the necessary High-Bandwidth SLI Bridge (Asus ROG version to match Card). After struggling with setting it up all day, I hit the internet to research what my problem was.


What I found in my research today was: There are two types of SLI, Last gen and current Gen.

Last-Gen SLI (Pre-10 Series) allowed users to setup dual graphics card (and more) setups for the power of SLI via a small ribbon cable SLI Bridge.

Current-Gen SLI (GTX 10 Series) will allow for the jerry rigged ribbon cable solution, however, you will see very little actual impovement (if ANY) in quality due to the requirement of these 10-Series cars for a HIGH-BANDWIDTH SLI Bridge. However, these bridges come in preset configurations of specific distances, requiring that you have a Motherboard with the proper PCIe port spacing to enable you to hookup the bridge on specifically PCIe x16 or PCIe x8.

The Asus Maximus VIII Hero has 3 PCIe slots, from top to bottom, x16, x8, x4. And the top two slots {x16 & x8) have a large gap between them, making it impossible to connect two video cards in these two top slots and connect them via a HIGH -BANDWIDTH SLI Bridge, regardless of whether you use a 2,3 or 4 way SLI Bridge. The only two ports that are spaced properly to allow you to connect a HIGH -BANDWIDTH SLI Bridge are the bottom two ports, the x8 & x4 slots. This configuration of x8 & x4 is not supported by nVidia or the 10-series cards for SLI. Meaning, with both cards connected to the board in these slots, the system will recognize them in both Device Manager and the GeForce Control Panel, however they will simply show as connected, with no SLI option in the control panel listed. With or without the bridge connected, you will not get the option to use SLI as one of the cards is connected in the x4 slot.

And I am sure that there are those out there who will respond "Wait! I have a friend who has the Maximus VIII Hero in SLI" or "I have that board and 10-Series cards in SLI"... Yes, that is entirely possible. But only with the hackneyed last-generation floppy cable SLI bridge connector from a time past. Meaning you are hooking up $800+ in Video Cards to see performance only slightly better to no-better than a single card. In order to see the massive boosts to frame-rate and visuals capable with a 10-Series SLI setup, you HAVE to use the HIGH -BANDWIDTH SLI Bridge, which regardless of the manufacturer is a solid piece of PCB at specific spacing. So, NO. You do not have a proper or even functioning SLI setup without this bridge.

I hope this helps people avoid making this selection mistake. I called Asus support, and after some debate with them, they said they weren't sure why and would have to "call me back".

Am I completely off about this? Is there something I am doing incorrectly? Does someone out there have REAL SLI setup on 10-Series cards with this motherboard who can provide advice??? Please help. I am truly hoping I am wrong and I don't have to buy a new motherboard in order to setup SLI properly.
 
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EDIT: nevermind, didn't actually see your message.

You could have just bought a 3 lane spacing HB SLI bridge though, and contrary to popular belief, when 1080 and 1070 came out, many reviewers tested if HB SLI was necessary, turns out they were not unless you were going higher than 1440p.

EDIT2: 3 way bridge is also NOT HB SLI Bridge. HB SLI is only two way. They have more bandwidth than ribbons, yes, but less than HB SLI Bridges

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That large gap should be existent on almost every other Z based motherboards, you are farmiliar with that arrangement too: the two PCI-E lanes for SLI has 2 additional lanes in between the X16 lanes, this particular board has simply removed one of those lanes (because it almost inevitably always ends up unusable because of the GPU cooler completely covering that slot), the lane spacing should be identical to other SLI capable motherboards that has all lanes present.

Your usual 3 lane spacing HB SLI bridge should work without any problems. The bottom two lanes are two lane spacings apart, but those lanes are not SLI capable because one of the lanes is X4 speed, and SLI requires ALL GPUs in the SLI to have at least x8

The problem with "customised" spacing between the lanes is that ALL computer cases have lane spacings that conform to the ATX specs, so if Asus "customise" their spacings, you will run into problems with expansion cards not fitting the case long BEFORE you even set up your SLI GPU (the GPUs will simply not fit the brackets).

Lastly, Unless you are running SLI with a 4k monitor, you do NOT need a HB bridge for SLI to work. It'll be ideal, but there is practically no difference between using ribbons and HB bridges until you go beyond 1440p
 

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This too.

The way Motherboards 'count' lane spacing is rather confusing, but on the VIII hero, X16 and X8 is considered to have 3 lane spacing between them (if we count the very top lane as 1, X16 is 2, X8 is 5, 3 is empty on this particular motherboard), not the number of lanes the bridge has to crossover to reach the next GPU.
 

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^^^^ This. So much this. So the spacing between x16 and x8 is exactly 58mm. and the spacing on Asus' 3-Way HB SLI Bridge is as follow Connector---->41mmConnector----->82mmConnector. So no matter what I do, the bridge either over or under shoots the connectors on the GPU pcb. SO FRUSTRATED. So angry that I just bought a Z270E board, and I am going to sell this VIII Hero, even though it's only a few months old. Grrr.
 

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EDIT: nevermind, didn't actually see your message.

You could have just bought a 3 lane spacing HB SLI bridge though, and contrary to popular belief, when 1080 and 1070 came out, many reviewers tested if HB SLI was necessary, turns out they were not unless you were going higher than 1440p.

EDIT2: 3 way bridge is also NOT HB SLI Bridge. HB SLI is only two way. They have more bandwidth than ribbons, yes, but less than HB SLI Bridges
 
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