AMD APU Best Gaming Budget Built- GTA V, Battlefield 1

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Hi,
I am planning to put together a gaming PC on a tight budget and after researching on the internet for past 2-3 days, i have chosen the following parts for the build. I mostly plan to play current gen games like GTA V ,Battlefield 1,BF 4, Ride 2, Fifa 17, CS Go, NFS 2016. My current monitor is a 21.5' Samsung LCD capable of 1920x1080. Since i am on a budget built i can live with playing on 1280x720 or 1366x768 on Medium settings atleast and above 30 FPS constant.

APU -
AMD A8-7600 Kaveri Quad-Core 3.8GHz Socket FM2+ Desktop Processor
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AMD A10 7870K Black Edition A-Series APU with Radeon R7 Graphics AD787KXDJCSBX

MOBO-
Asus A68HM-K - DDR3 FM2+ Socket AMD MotherBoard (FM2+ Socket, A68H FCH Chipset, DDR3 2400+)
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Gigabyte AMD FM2 A68H SATA 6Gb s USB 3.0 mATX ATX DDR3 2133 NA Motherboards GA-F2A68HM-H

RAM-
Corsair Vengeance Pro Series - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 DRAM 2133MHz C11 RAM
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Corsair Vengeance Pro Series - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 DRAM 2400MHz C11 RAM

PSU-
Corsair VS Series VS450 - 450 Watt SMPS

HDD-
WD Blue Desktop 1TB Internal Hard Drive

With this build i'd like to squeeze out maximum performance and FPS. If the A8 would perform somewhat equal to A10 with a difference of 3-5 FPS, then i wouldnt want to spend extra for the A10. So if the performance is much superior, 8-10 FPS, then i can but the A10.

i am confused b/w the mobo's. Asus is the cheaper one.please tell me if it compatible with the CPU and RAM specified. also is it any good for overclocking RAM and increase video memory of GPU to 2GB?

Again confused with the RAM.kindly suggest me the best ram with best clock speed for my built.
as i know dual channels would work best with atlease 2133mhz or 2400mhz clock. Can i buy the 2133mhz ram and overclock it to 2400mhz?

I recon the PSU would be sufficient for the current built. Ill buy a new Graphic card in the future when my current built gets old. GPu i am planning to buy would be Nvidia GTX 1060 or Radeon R7 or something. Is the mobo and psu compartible with the future GPU?

Finally please do not suggest to go for i3,i5,i7 with GTX gpu if i want to build a gaming pc.My aim with this built is to play the current gen games properly with possibility of future upgrades.The parts I have specified above best fit my budget of $300.
Kindly reply soon as i am getting too excited to order all the stuff! :pt1cable:
 
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Ecky
For what it's worth, the Pentium G4600 is both faster and cheaper than the AMD APUs. The CPU portion is significantly faster, and Intel's HD 630 just about ties AMD's A10 graphics. The Pentium also draws half the power, uses the much faster DDR4 2400, and has a much better upgrade path. It's really difficult to recommend one of AMD's APUs in 2017.
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I know you don't want us to suggest another CPU, but if you want to plan for future upgrades with this build then you'll have to replace the CPU, motherboard, RAM and possibly buy another copy of Windows. There's no upgrade path from AMD's current APU line.

The A10 is worth the extra money over the A8.

APUs benefit from having lots of fast RAM, so the 2400Mhz DIMMs are the ones to go for. The reason being is that an APU uses system RAM in lieu of VRAM. You should consider upgrading to 16GB as a lot of games today can use more than 8GB. This is even more apparent with an APU as system RAM and VRAM come from the same pool.

The PSU is fine if a little basic.

There isn't much to distinguish the motherboards and both will support the A10.
 
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For what it's worth, the Pentium G4600 is both faster and cheaper than the AMD APUs. The CPU portion is significantly faster, and Intel's HD 630 just about ties AMD's A10 graphics. The Pentium also draws half the power, uses the much faster DDR4 2400, and has a much better upgrade path. It's really difficult to recommend one of AMD's APUs in 2017.
 
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Amen to that, I agree with every single word. Go with Pentium G4560, best bang for buck.
 
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Here is the build for you:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($61.99 @ Jet)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($73.77 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.92 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.33 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($50.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $335.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-15 08:27 EST-0500

It would be much closer to 300$ if I used a lower-end PSU, but couldn't force myself - better PSU will allow better future upgradeability.

This rig is faster in every aspect than the APU one, and provides much better upgrade path. And you gotta admit, price is quite allright as well ;)
 
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I have a build which is far superior.
Amd apu is weak. Upgrading to a gtx 1060 will be a severe bottleneck.
PSU is weak (its corsair but the lowest end VS=worst materials corsair has offer)

[PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/229GtJ) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/229GtJ/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
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**CPU** | [Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8gKhP6/intel-pentium-g4560-35ghz-dual-core-processor-bx80677g4560) | $61.99 @ Jet
**Motherboard** | [ASRock B150M-DVS R2.0 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BzjWGX/asrock-b150m-dvs-r20-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-b150m-dvs-r20) | $54.99 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [Team Dark 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/grnG3C/team-dark-8gb-2-x-4gb-ddr4-2400-memory-tdged48g2400hc14dc01) | $54.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Seagate BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/44Gj4D/seagate-barracuda-1tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm010) | $48.77 @ OutletPC
**Video Card** | [Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8fx9TW/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-4gb-video-card-gv-n105td5-4gd) | $137.99 @ SuperBiiz
**Case** | [Zalman ZM-T1 PLUS MicroATX Mini Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Nbhj4D/zalman-case-zmt1plus) | $28.99 @ SuperBiiz
**Power Supply** | [SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4Vzv6h/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii430b) | $46.98 @ Newegg
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **$434.70**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2017-02-15 08:47 EST-0500 |


 
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i considered what you told but the technology is not cheap in asia. Most of my purchases would be from www.amazon.in (as i am getting the cheapest there)
just the processor, Mobo, RAM and GPU, it goes too overbudget,

Intel G4560- 5,799.
MSI H110M PRO-VD PLUS 6th Generation DDR4 MotherBoard - 4,411
Corsair Vengeance LPX 4GB DDR4 2400Mhz - 2,549 ( Rs.2,549) x 2 sticks --> 5,098
Gigabyte Geforce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Graphic Card- 11,630
Total - Rs.26,938 or $402.78 ((1 US Dollar equals
66.88 Indian Rupee))-

This is without a PSU,HDD,

 
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why do you say there is no upgrade path from amd apu? i was thinking of adding a $200 graphic card sometime later in the future when gta 6 comes and i shall be good to go with atleast 40 fps with it. more years of gaming added. i dont think ill be needing to change the cpu or mobo.. A10 7870k is good 3.9 GHz Base Frequency which is very decent to run anything.

you say A10 is worth the extra money over A8, checkout this video-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRg2UOXaImw
The a10 7850k has more fps but the 7600 seems to run more smooth than the a10. therefore i am confused with the A10 7870k or A8 7600.

Ill buy 2400mhz ram with it 8gb x2. 16gb ram would be too costly.
 
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the Pentium G4600 is not available in my country.
They have G4400, G4500 and G4560 only.
 
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The APU has no upgrade path because even the best CPU available for its socket is very slow by today's standards. The Pentium is already much faster, and you could drop in a Core i5 or i7 later without needing to replace your motherboard and RAM too.

Of course, it all depends on how pricing is there. In the US, the Intel CPU and board are approximately the same price as the AMD, and superior in almost every way.
 
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Used parts can never be trusted. people mostly sell them here if they have gone bad. what if i get a used i5 and it stops working after 2 weeks.ill just be left with a tiny expensive show piece with no warrenty.
The Budget is not such low, I believe you can build decent gaming computers for $300. More than that and you can just pickup an xbox one. The parts are costlier here especialy intel cpu's and therefore i need to spend more for the same build. Thats precisely the reason i was preferring AMD A8/A10 as i wouldnt have to buy a gpu for starters and when next gen (PS5/XB2) games come ,i can just add in a dedicated Graphic card.and run those too at atleast 30fps (smooth) . You guys have confused me more with the intel advices which dont even fit the budget. G4600 is not available where i live.with the i3 or i5 ill have to buy a gpu so no point,
 
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Ok how about this, you can get AMD Athlon CPU lets say Athlon X4 860k and get used GPU.That should give you much more GPU power than GPU inside APU.
Most of the used GPU's are safe buy if you get them from trusted seller that have good reviews.
So like this

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($74.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus A68HM-K Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Corsair)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.88 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $256.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-15 13:16 EST-0500

And for GPU you can get GTX 660 or HD 7850.
That should give you pretty good gaming performance at even 1080p.
 
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As others pointed out. Right now amd CPUs not necessarily weak , but they have very bad single thread perf. (comp. to Intel). And quess what most games out there are badly optimized and are influenced by high frequency and not by the number of cores. And intel wins here against anything amd had to offer till now , ryZen brings a fresh breath.
Going with amds current generation means that upgrading your GPU (whenever it will happen) will be pointless because it will be severely bottlenecked. That is why its better to get an Intel or wait for ryzen (notice that with ryZen you will need a dedicated GPU).
 
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You should not buy Amd now, either wait for Ryzen chips which will most likely compete with intel thus reduce prices, or buy a 4560 which is core by core much superior to any other amd chip on the market. Funny thing is pentium chips atm are competing very successfully against last gen i5s, almost no game in the market is using 4 cores to its potential.

So my suggestion is either find a used computer with decent chip on internet and add a rx 460 on it, or try to squeeze a little bit more money and play all those games u listed at 60 fps at high/ultra detail with this.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($61.99 @ Jet)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($46.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($47.59 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.33 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 460 4GB NITRO Video Card ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($46.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $403.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-18 12:17 EST-0500

Base Total: $398.87
Shipping: $4.99
Total: $403.86

You can buy everything except gpu and wait for a discount to buy it for 80ish $s. 2gb will let you play games on 1080p med/high details but ultra details for modern games u'll need 4gb. What i'd do if i were you however is to look for a used computer with decent cpu/8gbram. There are guides in youtube for that purpose.

edit:yea apparently g4560 has hyperthreading and g4400 dont, which makes no sense to me but this means there is literally no incentive to get an i3 with that on the market. So i changed my recomendadtion. Also dont forget to buy a h110 from a place that will flash its bios to accomodate kaby lake cpu. I do recommend h110 above anything because its alot cheaper than other chipsets which literally do not add any tangible benefits especially a budget gamer like you.
 
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It's a joke, right? You must be a funny guy!

 
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Using a low-quality youtube video clearly recorded at 30 fps to decide that a A8-7600 is a better performer than a A10-7870K would be a very poor decision-making process.

There's nothing wrong with building an entry-level PC, but you do have to keep your expectations realistic. You'll have fine budget gaming right now with it, but the idea that you're going to slap in another GPU years down the road and this CPU will be just fine on new AAA games is exceedingly optimistic. Clock rate isn't really meaningful across different architectures; that an A10-7870k is at 3.9 GHz isn't really useful to gauge how it would do 2, 3, or 4 years from now.

If this build gets you the performance now that you want now and the budget you have now, go for it. But if you put together this build with the idea that it's a good upgrade candidate down the road, you're very likely to be disappointed when that time comes.
 
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