Should I buy new PSU to replace G650M from my old PC?

iceZ_Evolution

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since I build my new rig, at first i decide to use my old PSU G650M from coolmermaster then I research some about PSU and this PSU is place at tier 3, so I wonder this PSU is good and stable enough for my new rig ??
I just don't wanna damage my motherboard like my last rig. (but I'm not sure it because of PSU that makes the capacitor pop out after 4 years)

here is my spec

CPU Intel Core i7-7700k
Motherboard Asus Maximus IX Formula
RAM G.Skill Trident Z RGB F4-3200C16Q-32GTZR
SSD Samsung 960 EVO 500GB
CPU COOLING Corsair H100i v2
GPU Asus GTX 1080Ti (waiting for release)*
PSU Coolermaster G650M (old one) or I'm thinking about buy a new Corsair HX850i**
CASE Corsair 570X total 6 fan (4 RGB + 2 stock fan come with H100i v2)

appreciate any suggest and opinion
Thank you.
 
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First of all, that’s a sweet rig you have :)

You have some premium components so if you can afford it then yes go for a 750w/850w PSU from a good brand like Seasonic / Corsair / EVGA.

Anyway let me say that your PSU is enough for your rig but is not at the same quality level, that’s all.

 
Yup, I would highly recommend getting a Tier 1 or Tier 2 PSU to replace the lower-tiered CM G650M. However, you *might* not need that amount of power supply (at 850W). There is no data yet on the recommended power supply or the actual power draw of the GTX 1080Ti (but chances are, the recommended PSU wattage will be around 550W-ish only, for the whole system).

Personally, for your planned single GPU setup, I would either get a 650W or 750W PSU wattage Tier 1/Tier 2 unit. This already accounts for the possible overclock you will do running your system at full load.
 

iceZ_Evolution

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Thank you guys
So the sweet spot for my build is 750W right ? and if I decide to do SLI later is 750W still ok ? or just get 850W for safety ?

in my country EVGA is not available.
but Corsair is kinda famous so I can find every series for Corsair.
for Seasonic is available quite a few series, can you recommend the series so I can check if it available in my country ?
(I just realize Seasonic is a legendary brand but I just never heard it before until few days ago)

I checked at QVL for Formula from ASUS the other day, should I care about qualify PSU ?
in QVL shows RM850X is qualify, can't find RM750 in my country anymore.
So the easy choice maybe choose between RM850X or HX850/750i and maybe Seasonic if I can find it

here what I can find so far from Seasonic
Seasonic Platinum 860W
Seasonic PRIME 650 W Titanium
Seasonic PRIME 750 W Titanium
Seasonic X SERIES 850 W
 

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Corsair is a good brand as well, if you are thinking in SLI something that I personally don’t recommend cause a lot of games doesn’t come out with SLI support and sometimes takes some time to get it plus if you are not thinking in a multi monitor or some extreme 4k gamming I would not recommend an SLI build.

But any case if that in your mind I will go definitely for 850w or above for SLI, we still need to wait for the 1080ti PSU recommendation on SLI but maybe is around 850w/1000w.

Corsair HX850i 850W 80 Plus Platinum Modular (http://www.corsair.com/es-es/hxi-series-hx850i-high-performance-atx-power-supply-850-watt-80-plus-platinum-certified-psu) is a nice and good PSU

And Seasonic the Platinum 760/860 (https://seasonic.com/product/platinum-860-2-2/?lang=es)

Booth are all most at the top of their range (Corsair high end will be AX series but only comes from 1000W and above if I not mistaken)
 

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Seasonic 860 or Pime 750 will be a bad ass PSU, like I said if you want to go for an SLI build aim high and good just to be more ¨save¨ if you can afford it of course, we are talking about of expensive premium PSU´s
 

iceZ_Evolution

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Thank you for the info about 4k and multi-screen and SLI plus correct "save" BTW sorry for my bad English
So..If single GPU 750W is kinda overkill right ?

I just read few review, they said Prime 750W is really bad ass plus 10 years warranty, now I kinda interested in it.

For HX850i and Seasonic Platinum 860W and Prime 650W cost about the same in my country, they are cost less than Prime 750W about 28 USD, any suggestion about this 3 ?

I must research and think a little bit more, for now my mind go for Prime 750W, gotta find out if it worth for extra cost

oh and one more thing is it worth to have those kind of curcuit/surge protection and stuff, since i have a UPS from APC 750XL ?
 

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Well you are never to secure :) notice that the USP will protect the source power but not what’s going in to you hole system so a 10 years warranty plus high end grade components give you some good peace of mind.

If you can afford it I´ll go for the Prime 750W if not Seasonic Platinum will be my personal choice.

 


As far as rig built around a single GTX 1080 (not 1080Ti) is concerned, the recommended PSU wattage is 520W; for a rig built around a GTX 1080 SLI (not 1080Ti SLI), the recommended PSU wattage is 750W. Here is one of the most oftenly-linked reference for your PSU Requirements by RealHardTechX: http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm . To this date, we still do not know the power consumption of the future GTX 1080Ti, so we can only speculate that a 550W-ish or a 750W-ish PSU **might** be the suggested wattage for a single or SLI setup, respectively. We can only know for sure once the actual card has been released, benchmarked, and reviewed.

I am sure you have come across the PSU Tier List: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html . Seasonic has almost all PSU series in the upper tiers (FL, XP, P, X, G) and some slightly falling between mid-upper tiers (M12II, S12II). Corsair, on the other hand, has some selected PSU series in the upper tiers (AXi, AX, RMi, RMx, HXi), a handful of models at the middle tiers (HX, some RM, TX, VX) and several models at the lower tiers (CS, CX, CX-M, VS, GS, most RM).

Personally, I would not recommend you getting the 80+ Platinum nor the 80+ Titanium rated models as they are ridiculously overpriced for the same performance you only need (not want). Some reviews have already pointed out that these 80+ ratings are highly subjective and just a reason to bring the price of the units up. Take a quick read on this 2017 article "Is 80 PLUS Broken? How To Make It A More Trustworthy Certification" (by Tomshardware): http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/80-plus-psu-efficiency,4848.html as well as this 2011 article "Why 80 PLUS® is Irrelevant to You When Buying a PSU" (by HardOCP): http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/04/80_plus_irrelevant_to_you_when_buying_psu/ .

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The above sample graphs shows you that when your PC is run at 24/7 at a 50% load (which is a typical average scenario), the cost to operate a Platinum-rated PSU is at ~$0.52/day. This is just ~$0.01/day less than a Gold-rated PSU and just a ~$0.04/day less than a Bronze-rated PSU. This simple graph shows you that the time to recuperate the cost for an expensive Platinum-rated PSU will be longer than recuperating the cost you spent for a Gold-rated PSU providing almost the same amount of efficiency. So, price/performance, I would not recommend overpaying for something you can't fully utilize where a much lesser price is available. I highly suggest you eliminate the "need" (i.e., want) of a Platinum or Titanium-rated PSU, get a Gold or Bronze-rated PSU for the same performance, and save your hard-earned money to purchase the much-needed upgrade of other components in your PC.
 
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iceZ_Evolution

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Thank you Raisonjohn for all the information.
That's point what I'm looking for and wanted to be confirm.
I've learn a lot more from that, maybe i have to do more research and sleep over it like a week to see if I really gonna go for the one I desire, again thanks a lot about tiers thing and 80 PLUS rate thing, maybe Imma go with 80 PLUS Gold at the upper tier, I heard 80 PLUS Gold is kinda sweet spot to buy since upper tier trend to have 80 PLUS Gold or higher and I can't find 80 PLUS Bronze at upper tier level in my country.