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WilliamTPItts

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I've been at this for like six hours by myself and I'm finally out of patience. I had a 460GB Eco3 SSD I've been using as my boot and ONLY drive in my computer for awhile now. Today I picked up a Samsung EVO 850 500GB SSD and I added it into my system. I want the 850 EVO to serve as the boot drive / primary drive and I want the Eco3 to act as a secondary drive for game storage, etc.

I have tried every possible way to go about doing this, and nothing is working. I tried cloning the primary SSD to the new one, both were the same, but the other wouldn't boot and I couldn't Secure Erase the first SSD. So I was stuck with two identical SSDs. Then I formatted the EVO which wiped everything off it. IM JUST SO CONFUSED.

Please someone, help me. :(
 
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William...
Let's start from the beginning as it were...

1. At this moment are you communicating here on Tom's forum using the PC that's having the problem(s) you describe?

2. Your present boot drive - the one you describle as a "460GB Eco3 SSD" - that's a Mushkin 480 GB (not a 460 GB) ECO3 model - isn't it?

3. Up to recently the system booted without incident and functioned without problems using that boot drive, right? If that was NOT the case, read no further. Capiche?

4. Now you've purchased a Samsung EVO 850 500 GB SSD that you plan to utilize as your new boot drive. So the obvious plan-of-action is to clone the contents of your present boot drive to the new Samsung SSD. (We'll assume the Samsung is non-defective.)

5. We'll...
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WilliamTPItts

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After cloning the Eco3 to the 850 EVO, I did this. The EVO would NOT boot. Gave me an error stating that there was no OS on the 850 even though I cloned it. Even if this does work, how do I erase everything off the ECO3? I don't want the OS on there anymore, nor do I want all those file clogging it up.
 
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aldan

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actually,if you leave all the files on the eco intact you have a perfect backup for your evo.i do a clone of my primary hdd periodically as a backup.

you could go thru the eco3 and manually erase any os files,but you really dont need to do this.i would go thru it and erase any os files i recognized and leave it at that.as long as you have your evo as first boot drive you have no worries.
 
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When you clone a drive, be it a HDD or a SSD based pair of drives.

You cannot have both drives connected to your system.

Why you ask, because each drive has a drive letter assignment William.

For example the existing SSD drive would have a drive letter assignment of C:\
When you cloned the contents of the drive to the new Samsung 850 SSD drive.

You also ended up with a drive with the drive letter assignment of C:\

You cannot have two drives with the same drive letter assignment of C:\ connected to your system at the same time.

When you boot, or power the system up William, or if you get into windows and use file explorer you would only see one C:\ drive listed.

The system does not know what drive to choose to boot windows from basically William.

Remove the old drive and connect the samsung SSD drive via the sata data cable to the fist sata port of the motherboard connecting the power to the drive.

The system will then boot from the new Samsung drive into windows and reach login or windows desktop mode.

Once you have done this as a check to see if it is working fine.
Shut the system down.

Connect the old SSD drive up again.
And in the bios settings of the motherboard set either the Usb flash drive or the optical drive of your system to be the first boot device to boot from. Save the new changes in the bios before you exit it.

Now connect the usb flash drive with the windows 10 ect setup and installation or the Dvd disk version of windows setup and install into the optical dvd drive.

Let windows setup run till you reach the part where it asks you what drive you wish to install windows too.
Hi light the old ssd Eco3 drive.

Then click on advanced drive options in blue writing to the bottom left of the window shown.
Format the second SSD drive where it will be given a drive letter assignment of D:\.

Once done press escape on the keyboard to exit the windows setup and install procedure William.

Go back into the bios and set the Samsung 85o drive as the first boot able device to look for.
Save the changes in the bios again before you exit it.

And your done !

You now have a C:\ drive with windows os on it.
And a fresh blank Eco3 SSD drive for data storage.

Follow the instructions to the letter and you cannot go wrong.

This is the quickest way to resolve the problem of drive letter assignment clashes when cloning a drive.

 
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I haven't really read the options, however, have u tried loading windows on ur secondary drive, removing it from ur primary drive and changed the new SSD as the primary drive
 
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William...
Let's start from the beginning as it were...

1. At this moment are you communicating here on Tom's forum using the PC that's having the problem(s) you describe?

2. Your present boot drive - the one you describle as a "460GB Eco3 SSD" - that's a Mushkin 480 GB (not a 460 GB) ECO3 model - isn't it?

3. Up to recently the system booted without incident and functioned without problems using that boot drive, right? If that was NOT the case, read no further. Capiche?

4. Now you've purchased a Samsung EVO 850 500 GB SSD that you plan to utilize as your new boot drive. So the obvious plan-of-action is to clone the contents of your present boot drive to the new Samsung SSD. (We'll assume the Samsung is non-defective.)

5. We'll further assume you're working with a desktop PC. (Always indicate the type of system you're working with when raising a problem similar to the one you've raised, together with the make/model of the motherboard or the make/model of the OEM PC that's involved). Capiche?

6. So, all things considered a simple disk-to-disk cloning ("data-migration") undertaking is called for. Should be a straightforward operation.

7. Presumably you will be using the Samsung Data Migration program since the Samsung SSD will be the recipient of the clone.

8. After installing the SDM program and with the the Samsung internally-connected in the system to one of the SATA connectors (ports), use the SDM program to carry out the disk-cloning operation. It should be a cut & dried operation. You don't have to fiddle with the Samsung SSD in any way PRIOR to the disk-cloning operation. There's NO NEED for a "Secure Erase"; there's NO NEED for initializing, partitioning, formatting the SSD. A "virgin" Samsung SSD as the destination drive is fine & dandy. Capiche?

9. After (hopefully) successfully completing the disk-cloning operation and shutting down the PC, IMMEDIATELY DISCONNECT the source drive (your Mushkin SSD) from the system and boot the system with ONLY the Samsung drive connected.

10. Assuming a successful boot to the OS and the SSD functions without probems, shut down the PC. At this point it's generally a good idea (although not vital) to connect your new boot drive to the motherboard's first SATA connector (usually designated SATA 0 or SATA 1).

11. You might want to check your BIOS to ensure the Samsung is first in boot order priority.

12. Now you can connect your "old" Mushkin SSD as a secondary drive and utilize it as you see fit.

13. After working with the new SSD for a while to determine all is well, then you can manipulate any of your files on the secondary drive, i.e., the Mushkin SSD.

Good luck.
 
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