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Gooday Ahou987,

If you are running compute-intensive, multi-threaded applications that can benefit from core-thread distribution, e.g., VM,s, a better tactic would be to use Xeon E5, which can support more than 4-cores. The i7-7700K does have a very high single-thread rate and good computed functions, but if you want to "run many instances" it's limited.

How about:

HP Z620 WORKSTATION INTEL XEON 2.5GHz (8 CORES) BRAND NEW MOTHERBOARD USB 3.0 > AU $499.

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Buy a Z270 mobo.

Otherwise you'll have to update the BIOS and the only way you can do this is you'll have have to buy a Skylake CPU first to flash it

Because it may or may not post with a Kaby Lake. Depending on the BIOS thats on it when you get it

It needs the 2nd to last BIOS update (1C) to support that CPU

Core i7 Kabylake i7-7700K 100 4.2 1M 8M B0 91 HD Graphics 630 1150MHz 7977v1C.zip
 

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Thanks Paul much appreciated mate :). I am looking to do some programming and also running robotic software hence the CPU, trying to maximize the number of instances I can run :).
 

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I have read the article it makes a good point, I think it is worth while to look at Xeon processors, can you help me with a build?

I was planning to get as much instances as possible without causing lag to the program running.
 

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I think lets quote up both second hand and new and compare to see if it's worth it to go new, only reason is I don't want any failures so I will way up if its worth it.
 

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Yes, Xeon processors are very good in workstation pc's. Remember that they have no onboard graphics though so an add in card will be needed. They are power hungry cpus so find a good 650 watt power supply.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/tjL9XH
 

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Nothing in mind so far, was going for Skylake but that article changed my mind haha, its fine, just price it up and lets see what the price comes out to, and ill work out the cash flow!
 

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Something along the likes of this comes to mind.
There's savings to be had though if you shop around a bit and are happy to go second hand on a few of the items. Can't actually find that xeon cheaper second hand on ebay.com.au so you'd be getting first hand for that anyway. Let me know your thoughts

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-2630 V4 2.2GHz 10-Core Processor ($984.50 @ Skycomp Technology)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212X 82.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.00 @ Umart)
Motherboard: Asus X99-E ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($339.90 @ Skycomp Technology)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($149.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($67.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.00 @ Shopping Express)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Phoenix Video Card ($214.50 @ Skycomp Technology)
Case: Cooler Master CM 590 III (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.00 @ IJK)
Power Supply: Silverstone 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $2065.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-16 22:56 AEDT+1100
 


Gooday Ahou987,

If you are running compute-intensive, multi-threaded applications that can benefit from core-thread distribution, e.g., VM,s, a better tactic would be to use Xeon E5, which can support more than 4-cores. The i7-7700K does have a very high single-thread rate and good computed functions, but if you want to "run many instances" it's limited.

How about:

HP Z620 WORKSTATION INTEL XEON 2.5GHz (8 CORES) BRAND NEW MOTHERBOARD USB 3.0 > AU $499.

Replace the E5-2609 V2 with a pair of:

Intel Xeon E5-2690 8-Core 2.9GHz 20M 8GT/s LGA2011 CPU SR0L0 *3.8GHz Max Turbo > AU $270 each

The Xeon E5-2690 is 8-core /16 thread @ 2.9 / 3.8GHz with 20MB cache (i7-7700K = 8MB), supports 384GB of memory (DDR3-1600 ECC)(i7-7700K = 64GB) with a memory bandwidth of 51.2GB/s (i7-7700K = 34.1GB/s) and importantly 40 PCIe lanes. On Passmark, the average CPU Mark mark for a pair of E5-2690's is 14194, but the top mark in an HP z420 is 14858. New, the Xeon E5-2690 cost US $2,050 each.

I have an HP z620 with a pair of E5-2690's is 20464, but the office z620 makes 22625. The i7-7700K average CPU mark is 12321.

That particular z620 by the way supports Xeon E5-2600 V2 up to 14 cores and has some really fantastic Processors among them- the E6-2687w v2- 8-core @ 3.4 /4.0ghz for example.

Add system RAM to have 64GB of DDR3-1600 ECC registered > about AU $200 used.

That system has two Quadro NVS 295's and if you are not doing 3D, those would be just fine.

Add a Samsung 850 Evo 500GB with an OS partition and data partition > AU $ 227.
Add a suitable storage drive of say 2TB, a WD Black or Seagate ES.3 > AU $172.

So far:

System: $500
CPU's: $550
RAM: $200
Drive 1: 227
Drive 2: 172
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TOTAL =AU $1649

So, there you would have 16-cores / 32 threads at up to 3.8Ghz, 64GB of RAM, and a fast disk system.

In the future, the Quadro NVS 295's could be replaced with :

1. A Quadro K620, 4000 or similar GPU > about AU $200-300

2. Dell NVIDIA Tesla C2075 · 6GB GDDR5 · PCI-E · 900-21030-0020-100 > AU $ 385 that a GPU coprocessor with 6GB of memory and that adds a considerable computing power.

Another good way to do this would be to start with a Dell Precision T7600 and start with a single CPU or if the very high core count is not beneficial upgrade the above HP z620 to start with using a single fast Xeon E5-v2 6-core.

So, there's a high compute performance alternative. Besides cost / performance that a new system can't match, the best part is you don't have to build the whole thing from a box of parts- just plug in components as you find them.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

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HP z420 (2015) (Rev 3) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) / 32GB DDR3 -1866 ECC RAM / Quadro K4200 (4GB) / Samsung SM951 M.2 256GB AHCI + Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) + Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 2.1 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)
[ Passmark Rating = 5581 > CPU= 14046 / 2D= 838 / 3D= 4694 / Mem= 2777 / Disk= 11559] [6.12.16]

Analysis / Simulation / Rendering:

HP z620 (2012) (Rev 3) 2X Xeon E5-2690 (8-core @ 2.9 / 3.8GHz) / 64GB DDR3-1600 ECC reg) / Quadro K2200 (4GB) + Tesla M2090 (6GB) / HP Z Turbo Drive (256GB) + Samsung 850 Evo 250GB + Seagate Constellation ES.3 (1TB) / Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCIe sound card / 800W / Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z313 2.1 speakers > HP 2711x (27" 1980 X 1080)
[ Passmark System Rating= 5675 / CPU= 22625 / 2D= 815 / 3D = 3580 / Mem = 2522 / Disk = 12640 ] 9.25.16
[ Cinebench R15: OpenGL= 119.23 fps / CPU = 2209 cb / Single core 130 cb / MP Ratio 16.84x] 10.31.16

 
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Thank you abaday789 and bambiboom! There both great builds and something to consider, I will do a little bit of research and see which system best fits my needs, so far I think your right, Xeon is the way to go for something like this.

I will get back to yall AS as I have a decision :), anymore input will be great!