Wireless Gateway (Comcast) assigning multiple new IP's, intermittent service, varying speeds

aydare

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Dec 10, 2016
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Let me preface by saying I am somewhat computer illiterate, so I apologize in advance. I can do what I'm asked but not really be able to translate what it means. I'd also like to apologize for the lengthy post. I'd like to be as thorough as possible and give everyone as much info on this situation as possible. I've searched high and low for some answers but end up more confused or find that the particular issue someone has presented doesn't really fit our situation. Per usual, Comcast has been no help at all and they keep pushing for a technician. I'm sure most would choose this route, but that's my very last resort as they keep giving us different stories and what they say usually contradicts the information in front of us. I don't care to get jerked around by the technician and overcharged when I'm already being overcharged for subpar service. So here's what's been going on:

November 2016:
We were notified, via our Comcast email, that our wireless gateway, CISCO dpc3941t, was recalled back in September. Apparently there was an issue with certain models that were released to customers during a particular timeframe. Continuing to use said device would cause connectivity/speed issues.

December 2016:
We received the new device in early December, Technicolor dpc3941t (that now shows up in the device section of our account info as CISCO), which was nice because our speeds were starting to diminish and we could barely even use our TV (we have internet only). At the time, the only 3 devices that were connected were my Windows phone, our Samsung Smart TV and our desktop (turned off or put on "sleep" for a few hours). Upon setup, everything was fine for about 2 weeks and then speeds started dropping. Our son was gifted a tablet for Christmas, so we upgraded our service shortly before the holiday. A few days before the new year we started having major issues. It got to the point where every 15-30 minutes the internet would go out and the wireless gateway would reset. Sometimes it would reset and reconnect and other times we'd have to unplug the device in order to connect anything. Doing this would require unplugging our TV and sometimes restarting our devices. Our TV is setup to obtain all internet-related information automatically, so we don't enter any information ourselves.

January 2017:
We contacted Comcast and were told there was an outage in the area and they were working on it. The rep told us to restart the wireless gateway, despite telling her that we do this multiple times each day anyway. We did, the issues wasn't fixed, she said it should be fixed in the next 30 minutes and she'd call back to verify that everything was working. If not, we'd need a technician. We didn't receive a call and the problem definitely wasn't fixed. I looked for possible solutions and one directed me to get on 10.0.0.1 and check the logs. The firewall section had 70+ pages. Pages, not entries. Keep in mind, we only had this device for maybe 3-4 weeks. After a few days I got tired of the nonsense and called back.

This rep said that there weren't any outages and since things were progressively getting worse, I requested to swap the wireless gateway. The rep agreed on the new gateway and, again, said we'd need a tech if things weren't resolved. We got the new device, set it up and things were running smoothly for a few days without any issues. Then things started again and we spoke with another rep. They credited our account for 1 week (despite having service MAYBE a few hours everyday for multiple weeks) and said we should just call a tech because everything on their end is fine. I declined and checked the logs. From what I can see, the device is acquiring a new IP multiple times each day. Sometimes 2 or 3 and other times more. Today alone it acquired 5 in 5 1/2 hours. On 3 different occasions in the last week the device has restarted by itself and I've had to set everything up with new credentials as if I'm setting up a brand new device.

Here are some other things I'd like to make note of:
- Current wireless gateway is Arris tg1682g
- At times I can't even access 10.0.0.1. I get a notification that there was an error loading the page or there's "no network connection." This happens on the desktop and via WiFi.
- I haven't tampered with any of the settings as I don't know what a majority of it even means or does. But I do find that MoCA will be turned on and off. I also see that "Port Mapping" was added and deleted a few days ago, more than once. Again, I haven't tampered with any of that.
- When the device resets, sometimes it will completely erase the logs. So unless I glue myself to our desktop to constantly download everything, I have access to only a few day's worth of information.
- Our WiFi and hotspot (I turned that off but it keeps getting turned on again) show error messages on Comcast's website. Even where it should show our plan it says "We are unable to retrieve your plan info at this time." Network name and password both say "Error accessing data." WiFi Public Hotspot says "Something has gone wrong." These errors have been on the website, consistently, for the last week. Before that, we'd only see the error if the internet was down (yet showed it was connected on the website).
- Upon restarting, it sometimes takes 10-30 minutes for the device to connect. About half the time the 2.4 and 5 GHz lights will flash in a pattern and not connect at all (requiring a manual restart) or only our desktop will connect.
- The website will show an outage, while a rep says there isn't one or our device is shown as "connected" on the website.
- My phone will show it is connected via Ethernet (????).
- This happens regardless of what devices are connected.
- Speeds are all over the place. We have Blast (up to 75Mbps) and will get around 25 when 1 device is connected as well as 3. Other times we have 55 with 1 or 3 connected. Typically, speeds hang out between 8 and 30.
- We don't do any gaming, file sharing, etc.
- Our TV will show that it is connected to the network, but not the internet. Other times it will show the network connection failed.

I suppose we should just get our own device and eliminate some of this problem, but if the issue is with Comcast then it needs to be addressed. Unfortunately, they're the only company that provides service to new customers where we're located. Most of our neighbors have another provider, but have had the service for years and have been able to keep their service. Again, every device we have is setup exactly how it came out of the box. Unless an update changed something, we haven't tampered with anything. Any advice would be greatly appreciated and I'll gladly perform whatever tests needed to get to the bottom of this. Thank you in advance for your help and patience!
 
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Yes it is all very time-consuming and for the most part designed to be that way I think.

Keep up the escalations as you really have no other options - and companies know when that is the case.

File the formal complaints.

And "cc" your Representatives and Senators - both State and Federal plus local elected officials.

Doubt that they can do much about it all (or are even willing to do so).

However, it may give him or her a chance to posture on behalf of a constituent....

No company wants to get bad publicity.

Ralston18

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As I read your post the foremost thing that strikes me is the intermittent nature of the problem.

Comcast is more than capable of running tests to the wireless gateway to verify that it is functioning properly. And/or cable condition and continuity. My current cable modem will show me the signal strengths.

Start by physically inspecting as much of the incoming Comcast connection cabling as you safely can. Look for damaged cables, corrosion, unconnected plugs, splitters (one cable in, 2 or 3 out). All outbound splitter ports should have a cable or be properly terminated - not just some cap on it. A proper termination cap will have a central wire inside.

The next issue is the "new device". Comcast has been bugging me to replace a perfectly functioning cable modem. What they really want to do is to give me a device that becomes a neighborhood hot spot - and something I cannot turn off. Plus, whatever that device is, it may be cheap, buggy, and otherwise end user uncontrollable. (And I did note that you turned hot spot off and it comes back: maybe some clue there.....) And I also noted that accessing the Arris seems to be a problem. May have firmware limiting end user access. TBD.

If you purchase your own device then Comcast will simply blame any and all problems on that device.

For now focus on the physical connections into your home. And keep documenting everything.



 

aydare

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Dec 10, 2016
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Thank you for the suggestions! We've checked everything on multiple occasions but I'll make sure we go over everything again. Last night the internet was down again and I just left it alone to allow the activity to be logged. Once again I saw a few instances of Port Mapping being added and deleted, as well as the IP expiring.
 

Ralston18

Titan
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Strange that some other ISP would not accept new customers - sounds suspicious. What do they say when you contact them?

As for the Arris TG1682g my sense is that it may be doing its own factory resets. Which means that it ends up with the all too well known default login name and password.

And maybe someone is trolling for unproteted devices especially if that device becomes a hotspot.

Do a factory reset and, for testing purposes, leave the wifi off. Wired only and see if you can regain control and restore performance.
 

aydare

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Some providers only offer service to those within city limits and we're 3 miles out. Other providers, which are small mom and pop types, provided service to the entire area a few years back. Now they'll service business and whatever customers they had before. Sorry, I should've been more specific and clarified that they aren't offering service to new residential customers in my original post. I'm not sure as to why, they just tell me they don't offer it. AT&T acquired Alltel 2 years ago and have yet to offer internet to their customers. So unless we go with Comcast, we'd have to pay a large amount for a data plan that would allow us to use our phones as hotspots.

I will most definitely turn the WiFi off and see what happens. The weather didn't permit a full inspection of everything, so that will have to wait until tomorrow.
 

aydare

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Dec 10, 2016
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UPDATE:

We checked the wiring thoroughly, disabled WiFi, disconnected the Ethernet, disabled WiFi and disconnected the Ethernet, disconnected devices and even blocked them. Nothing changed other than the Port Mapping, so I caved and contacted Comcast on the 21st. The 1st rep wanted to argue about the 2 previous routers being connected and finally transferred me to an analyst. So here's the situation:

The 2 routers were showing they were returned, credited and "disabled." It required an escalation to access the routers (all 3) to see the actual status. The 2 routers that were returned were still linked to our account and the router in our home wasn't connected to the right "outlet" on their server. We were told the 2 routers would be removed in 24 hours. The analyst connected our router to the proper "outlet" and speeds tripled.

Fast forward 36 hours and the routers aren't gone, connection is intermittent again and I attempt a chat session. Per usual, connection was lost and I was forced to call. Another rep insisted on arguing about the routers and said we should uninstall Facebook Messenger to stop the Port Mapping. She had to lookup a majority of what I was talking about but wouldn't transfer me. By the end of the call she said she'd remove the 2 routers and we'd see the change within 24 hours. Funny since she insisted they weren't connected to our account in the beginning, despite my telling her the statuses change and we can troubleshoot them. The app was uninstalled with absolutely no change. Connection was garbage for a few hours and then we didn't have any problems. I logged into our account and saw 1 router was removed. We've been documenting all of this extensively and over the 24 hours we were to wait we only saw 1 instance of Port Mapping since the removal of the router, IP changed a few times but caused no issue with our connection as all devices were either able to connect again right away or we were busy and didn't notice a delay.

Fast forward another 48 hours from that call and we still have 1 router hanging out, which should be gone. I called back and had the unfortunate experience of yet another rep that wanted to argue and refused to transfer me. He told me that what the analyst said was incorrect and he could promise me the router had nothing to do with the connection issues. He said that I needed to have a tech out because there was nothing else they could do and the router wasn't linked to our account. I finally lost my cool (but I didn't cuss) and told him that someone was able to access more detailed info on the routers and I still have the option to troubleshoot the router. If it wasn't linked somehow, as well as the other, how was it removed and why am I able to troubleshoot? I was put on hold AGAIN and he came back on the line to inform me that he "discovered" another way to access the router. Unfortunately, the system was down but should be up in 2 hours. He said he'd call me personally the same day to let me know what was going on.

That was yesterday morning and I still haven't heard from the guy, router is still there and nobody bothered to respond via Facebook. In total, we've spoken to 7 people since the 21st. Our issues have diminished greatly, I'd say by about 80%, but there's still no reason why 3 people have failed to remove a router that is still linked to our account. So this was the issue we've been having since early December and I foresee having it a bit longer. At this point, we're just trying to get someone over there to do their job. Thank you all so much for your help and suggestions!
 

Ralston18

Titan
Moderator
Do you indicate that you are going to do the evaluation at the beginning of any support session?

If not, do so but do so as honestly and as objectively as you can. Will not defend the reps per se but they are often poorly trained and have only some marginal script to follow with some boss hanging over their shoulder to ensure "compliance".

See if you can escalate the matter even if you have to send regular paper copies of the history and transcripts.

http://corporate.comcast.com/contact-information.

https://consumerist.com/2015/02/03/6-things-comcast-customers-can-try-to-get-some-actual-customer-service/

I am always amazed at how much money companies let themselves lose, along with customer goodwill.

It would be all so easy to really do things right and all would benefit.

Hang in there - hope you find the right person (rep or manager) who knows what to do and is empowered to do it.



 

aydare

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Dec 10, 2016
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If I know I'll be able to hang around for the evaluation I'll indicate that I can complete it and do so right after. But given the amount of time I have to waste on all of this nonsense, sometimes it just isn't possible. I will, however, complete the survey they send to our email.

I finally took to Twitter after I waited another 24 hours for a response on Facebook and still no call from the guy I spoke to previously. Conveniently, I received a response on Facebook right after that. The rep I was chatting with removed the remaining router in all of 5 minutes. I expressed my frustrations and explained the ridiculousness of this ordeal. He offered a $50 credit, which is laughable and insulting. Another rep took his place and said she could credit $60 but nothing more because their records indicate we only called once in January, then again the 21st on and got a $12 credit in January. Basically, she blamed us for having this problem because we didn't call in enough. I then provided her with the details from our phone records, stating multiple calls were with reps, others gave us automated messages indicating an outage as well as the various chat sessions, plus visits to the office. I also explained that a quick check of the account showed an outage in the area on other occasions. Given the fact that the internet wasn't working, all of our day to day things that required the internet needed to be done on our mobile devices. So sucking up more of our data to chat with a rep is actually a very comical expectation. I informed her that had the routers been removed and a rep actually look into things, we wouldn't be having the conversation. If visits or chats aren't available to them then that's their problem, not mine. I have records of this and suggesting this is our fault is wildly unprofessional.

Another rep took over and offered $50, gave me the scripted apology and all of that horsebucky. I inquired as to why the credit amount was jumping from one offer to the next and stated that we'd just file a formal complaint with Corporate or the FCC.

During every encounter we asked for an analyst, manager or supervisor. The only time they transferred was when we were told there was an outage (early January) and my husband spoke with a technician. Every other time they refused, stating the manager would tell us the exact same thing, put us on hold or tried redirecting the conversation.

At this point, I'll attempt contacting Corporate, since they won't even get us to a supervisor. If that doesn't work then I'll go higher up.
 

Ralston18

Titan
Moderator
Yes it is all very time-consuming and for the most part designed to be that way I think.

Keep up the escalations as you really have no other options - and companies know when that is the case.

File the formal complaints.

And "cc" your Representatives and Senators - both State and Federal plus local elected officials.

Doubt that they can do much about it all (or are even willing to do so).

However, it may give him or her a chance to posture on behalf of a constituent....

No company wants to get bad publicity.

 
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