I need ideas for a Starter gaming PC.

polywobblydriver

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I am looking for a good, cheap starting point for a tower PC for gaming. I have a young friend just starting out on the PC gaming scene so budget is a big issue. They will upgrade over time so which units should be considered as a base to work up from? I think the budget is around £500.
 
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You don't need to be an electronic genius to build up a computer. When my PSU fried my MB and GPU (prebuilt PB pc ) I never switched a cable in my pc. When the components arrived I did it by myself and it worked from the 1st time.
Its not quantum mechanics , and static-energy is more of a myth nowadays. I mean I never worked with anything special , besides all components come equipped to protect them from static energy discharge.
Told you give me a site in UK where you buy components. I simply don't know what sites are there.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4600 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor (£74.32 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-D2V Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£64.80 @ Aria PC)
Memory: ADATA XPG Z1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£44.15 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£42.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H23 ATX Mid Tower Case (£26.48 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£68.17 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit (£83.94 @ Ebuyer)
Monitor: Samsung S22D300HY 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor (£84.98 @ CCL Computers)
Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-KM6150 Wired Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse (£13.95 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £503.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-17 22:59 GMT+0000


If he needs it all I can't put a GPU in so I had to go with a more expensive Pentium to get better built in video. Will make a second build without monitor/keyboard/mouse
 

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CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (£56.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-D2V Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£64.80 @ Aria PC)
Memory: ADATA XPG Z1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£44.15 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£42.98 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card (£129.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H23 ATX Mid Tower Case (£26.48 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£68.17 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home Full 32/64-bit (£83.94 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £517.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-17 23:02 GMT+0000

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------------------------------ budget kaby lake build ---------------------------
For a budget gaming build, I like to recommend that one builds for future expandability.
That means paying a bit more up front for some parts that allow for an easier future upgrade.
A good rule of thumb is to budget twice as much for the graphics card than for the cpu.

Let me start where you might not expect:

1. Buy a good 500w psu or better. 520w will run a card as good as a GTX1080.
Future graphics cards will be built on smaller 14nm so they should not need more power than today.
I would normally suggest Seasonic 520w: Expect to pay around $60.
Look for a tier 1 or 2 quality unit on a list such as this:
https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/computer_hardware/f/135081/t/45344.aspx?Redirected=true

2. Buy a Z270 based motherboard. Z270 will allow you to install a overclockable cpu.
You should find one for under $120. Lesser lga1151 chipsets will work for the truly budget constrained but at the expense of future upgrade optiions.
Here is a M-ATX example: ASRock Fatal1ty z270M pro 4 for $120:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157741

If a future upgrade to an overclockable I5-7600K is not likely, you can use a much cheaper B250 based motherboard for about $80.

3. I suggest a G4620 @3.7. About $93. If you are truly budget limited, you can buy a g3930 dual core for $42.
In time, you can upgrade to any I3/I5/I7 cpu that you want and market the original processor.

4. The intel stock cooler will do the job. Skylake runs cool.
If you want, you can use a cryorig H7 cooler with a 120mm fan. $35. It will be quieter.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565
One can always add a cpu cooler later.

5. For ram, speed is not important. Buy a 8gb kit of 2 x 4gb DDR4 1.2v 2133 speed ram.
About $40. If you ever want 16gb, buy it up front in one kit; adding more ram is never guaranteed to work.
Heat spreaders are marketing and generally useless.
Faster ram is not worth it for skylake and kaby lake:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1478-page1.html

6. Cases are a personal thing. Buy one you love. Most will do the job for <$50.
Here is a silverstone PS08 for $35; It fits a smallar M-ATX motherboard.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163223

7. The graphics card is the most important component for gaming.
I like the GTX750ti and EVGA as a brand.
Here is a superclock version:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
You could go stronger in the video card if your budget permits and your games need it.
On the other hand, you could build using the integrated 630 graphics which is quite good and see how you do.
By deferring on the graphics card, you will get a better idea of what you really need.
Integrated is fine for sims, but not fast action games.
8. Lastly, I will never build again without a SSD for the "C" drive. It makes everything you do so much quicker. 120gb will hold the OS and a handful of games.
With 240gb you may never need a hard drive at all. Defer on a hard drive until your ssd approaches 90% full.
Currently, I like samsung 850 EVO best.

-------------good luck------------




 

deathcall666

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To be honest , I'd wait for amd ryzen CPUs to launch at the end of the month. Currently Intel have very few solutions , and they come pretty expensive. But if you are in a hurry I made 2 builds.
If you don't need OS ( there are still ways to get win10 for free , or simply use kms activator) here is my build
[PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FszFpb) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FszFpb/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-7400 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qnM323/intel-core-i5-7400-30ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80677i57400) | $188.75 @ OutletPC
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VM2rxr/gigabyte-ga-b250m-ds3h-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-ga-b250m-ds3h) | $73.98 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FW38TW/geil-memory-gpr48gb2133c15dc) | $49.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m34NnQ/sandisk-ssd-plus-120gb-25-solid-state-drive-sdssda-120g-g26) | $43.74 @ B&H
**Storage** | [Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wNV48d/hitachi-internal-hard-drive-hua721010kla330) | $39.99 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [PowerColor Radeon RX 480 4GB Red Dragon Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nxVBD3/powercolor-radeon-rx-480-4gb-red-dragon-video-card-axrx-480-4gbd5-3dhdv2) | $164.98 @ Newegg
**Case** | [BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HDqbt6/bitfenix-case-bfxnov100wwxkkrp) | $22.99 @ NCIX US
**Power Supply** | [SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fZyFf7/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii520bronze) | $45.89 @ Newegg
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $655.31
| Mail-in rebates | -$25.00
| **Total** | **$630.31**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2017-02-17 19:45 EST-0500 |
630$=502£
You pretty much can't go up any higher than this. You could switch the rx480 (4gb) for either a rx480 (8gb) or and gtx1060 (6gb) but sacrifice the CPU with a i3

PCPartPicker part list](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MQFKxY) / [Price breakdown by merchant](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MQFKxY/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i3-7100 3.9GHz Dual-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/J9X2FT/intel-core-i3-7100-39ghz-dual-core-processor-bx80677i37100) | $119.88 @ OutletPC
**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VM2rxr/gigabyte-ga-b250m-ds3h-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-ga-b250m-ds3h) | $73.98 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [GeIL EVO POTENZA 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FW38TW/geil-memory-gpr48gb2133c15dc) | $49.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m34NnQ/sandisk-ssd-plus-120gb-25-solid-state-drive-sdssda-120g-g26) | $43.74 @ B&H
**Storage** | [Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wNV48d/hitachi-internal-hard-drive-hua721010kla330) | $39.99 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB NITRO+ Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YHGj4D/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-8gb-nitro-video-card-11260-07) | $214.99 @ Newegg
**Case** | [BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HDqbt6/bitfenix-case-bfxnov100wwxkkrp) | $22.99 @ NCIX US
**Power Supply** | [SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fZyFf7/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii520bronze) | $45.89 @ Newegg
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $631.45
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| **Total** | **$611.45**
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](http://pcpartpicker.com) 2017-02-17 19:57 EST-0500 |
With a gtx 1060 price goes to 626$ https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Ft7CmG/zotac-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-mini-video-card-zt-p10600a-10l
611 = 499£
626$=501£
Hope I helped you with this builds.
Remainder , wait for ryzen if you don't hurry.
 

polywobblydriver

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Thank you everyone for your replies!
I think he was looking for a ready built tower. I suspect, like me, the information for a ground up build is a bit intimidating. if there are no ready built units worth looking at where's the best place to go to get it built for him?
 

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Prebuilt computers are fail. They have weak/unstable PSUs , unbalanced CPU GPU ,limited upgrade ability and the list goes on.
If you have a similar site in UK I could make a configuration as well. Just ask and also if you live without an HDD .
 

polywobblydriver

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That's the problem with making assumptions!
The young lad who wants it is partially blind so he can't see well enough to build it for himself.
So a pre-built or a Third party builder is needed. I'm just the middle man hunting for the best information and advice.
Not everyone's an electronics genius!!!
 

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I wasn't either when I built my first one. Still aren't a genius now. Only point in any of that is that you can't buy a new prebuilt Computer actually capable of playing modern games at non choppy frame levels for that budget. And whatever you did find wouldn't be upgradeable so it'd be wasted money if the person later needed more performance. If this person really is blind to the point they couldn't build it them selves and actually a friend of yours you could do it for them.
 

polywobblydriver

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I'll see what he thinks of me trying to do it. I'm assuming that I don't need much in the way of specialist tools. I'm just worried I would fry something with static. I would need to invest in some sort of earthing setup.
 

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You don't need to be an electronic genius to build up a computer. When my PSU fried my MB and GPU (prebuilt PB pc ) I never switched a cable in my pc. When the components arrived I did it by myself and it worked from the 1st time.
Its not quantum mechanics , and static-energy is more of a myth nowadays. I mean I never worked with anything special , besides all components come equipped to protect them from static energy discharge.
Told you give me a site in UK where you buy components. I simply don't know what sites are there.
 
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