Problem with case fans installation

Kamil_16

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Hello,
I tried to find the answer in the existing threads, but I couldn't find one. Basically I have Corsair 460X case that comes with 3x SP120 RGB fans. I also wanna buy another 3 fans Corsair AF120, which will go 2 on top side of the case and 1 rear. I am wondering how can I connect them to the motherboard. I want to buy Phanteks PWM Fan Hub to connect all of these 6 fans to it, but according to the documentation I should plug the hub to CPU_FAN port, but currently I have my air cooler connected to it. The motherboard is : ROG STRIX Z270H GAMING. I am not sure if I should connect the my air cooler to another CHA_FAN port and use the CPU_FAN port for these 6 fans. I am also not sure If I can connect 6 fans to only one CPU_FAN port. I am newbie, so please be kind :D Thanks in advance.
 
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You are on the right track, and the last two paragraphs for the docs you quoted above give you most of the info. To help understand and to get you set properly, read on.

The basic problem that the manual with the Phanteks PWM Hub worries about is that many mobos these days use 4-pin headers for their CHA_FAN headers, but actually use Voltage Control Mode to control any fans plugged in there. Meanwhile, the Phanteks Hub, like all 4-pin Hubs, MUST have an input from a true PWM Mode header, and cannot work with one of those Voltage Control Mode headers. To prevent your having trouble with this, the manual advises always using the CPU_FAN header because ALL current mobos can use PWM Mode on that header.

HOWEVER, the manual for your mobo...
It depends how many amps those fans are. But I wouldnt connect 6 to the CPU header

How many fan headers are on the mobo??

This case came with 5 3 pin fans (with molex). The mobo has 3 headers (the CPU and 2 headers)

All I did was buy 2 splitters.

Connect the back fan to its own header.

Split the CPU fan with a top fan. Connected the other fan to a molex. And split the 3rd header between the 2 front fans

I cut 4 of the 5 molex connections off.

 

Kamil_16

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It will not look very good, how can I use this fan hub?

This is from the Phanteks PWM Fan hub documentation:

"The PWM hub functions optimally when modulated by a PWM signal from the motherboard, which will allow
the greatest control range. However, not all 4-pin motherboard connectors implement the PWM signal modulation.

Connecting the 4-pin to CPU_FAN
For full PWM functionality, Phanteks’ PWM hub requires users to connect the 4-pin connector to the “CPU_Fan”
connector of the motherboard, because all motherboard manufacturers implements a PWM signal modulation
on this connector. Connect the SATA 12V power to power the PWM hub. Not all motherboards have their CPU_
Fan connector set on PWM signal modulation by default. Please consult your motherboard documentation for
this matter.

Connecting the 4-pin to other 4-pin header (besides the CPU_Fan)
Other 4-pin connectors can be found on modern motherboards besides the “CPU_Fan” connector (e.g. “CPU_
Fan2”, “CHA_Fan”, “OPT_Fan”), however not all motherboard manufacturers implement a true PWM signal modulation
onto these connectors. These type of 4-pin connectors modulate the RPM by voltage, which has a smaller
control range compared to modulation by true PWM signal.

The 12V SATA power cable can not be used to power the PWM hub if connecting to these types of 4-pin connectors,
due to the interference with the RPM regulation by voltage (resulting in the fans running on full RPM). The
PWM hub will draw its power from the 4-pin connector, which is limited to a total device consuming 30W in total. "
 

Paperdoc

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You are on the right track, and the last two paragraphs for the docs you quoted above give you most of the info. To help understand and to get you set properly, read on.

The basic problem that the manual with the Phanteks PWM Hub worries about is that many mobos these days use 4-pin headers for their CHA_FAN headers, but actually use Voltage Control Mode to control any fans plugged in there. Meanwhile, the Phanteks Hub, like all 4-pin Hubs, MUST have an input from a true PWM Mode header, and cannot work with one of those Voltage Control Mode headers. To prevent your having trouble with this, the manual advises always using the CPU_FAN header because ALL current mobos can use PWM Mode on that header.

HOWEVER, the manual for your mobo says it does NOT use this type of odd 4-pin header. On p. 1-16 it shows that both of the CHA_FAN 4-pin headers have the PWM Signal on their Pin #4. So, you CAN use the Phanteks PWM Hub with this type of mobo fan header. Moreover, that is the right way to do this. You see, those CHA_FAN headers use the actual temperature measured by a sensor on the mobo to guide their control, and that is exactly what you need for case ventilation. (The control from the CPU_FAN header is based on a different sensor built into the CPU chip itself.)

The Phanterks PWM Hub is also exactly what you need for your purpose. All 4-pin Hubs avoid the limit on current consumption from a mobo CHA_FAN header. The Hub gets the power for all its fans directly from the PSU via a connection to a SATA power output from the PSU, and that can suuply MUCH more power than a mobo header can. The Hub then gets the PWM signal from the mobo CHA_FAN header you plug it into, and shares that out to all its fans, but this does not overload the header. Now, the Phanteks PWM Hub does something very different from most Hubs. Instead of merely sharing the PWM signal to its fans (and that would require that all the fans be able to use that signal, so they'd all have to be 4-pin design), it uses that PWM signal internally to create its own set of six 3-pin fan headers that operate in Voltage Control Mode. That is exactly what you must have to use 3-pin fans, which is what you have. Just an added note here - each port of the Hub can support more than one fan, and the Hub comes with two splitters to allow you to connect two fans each to a couple of its ports. So, out of the box, it can be used with 8 common fans, and you could even get a couple more splitters if you needed to.

The Hub makes use of a backwards compatibility feature of the new 4-pin fan design. A 4-pin fan connected to a 3-pin header operating in Voltage Control Mode (which is what this Hub does) will still be under control by the header, just as a 3-pin fan would. So the Phanteks PWM Hub can be used with any mix of 3-pin and 4-pin fans, and all of them will be controlled by the same PWM signal coming from the CHA_FAN header on the mobo that you plug the Hub into.

Bottom line. Get that Phanteks PWM Hub you planned on. Plug one lead cable into an appropriate SATA Power output connector from the PSU. Plug the fan header cable from the Hub into one of your mobo's CHA_FAN headers. Leave your CPU cooler connected to the CPU_FAN header. Plug all your case ventilation fans into ports of the Hub. Make sure one of those fans is on the white Port #1 of the Hub so that its speed will be sent back to the mobo header. (That is the only fan on the header whose speed will be reported to the mobo - you cannot "see" the speed of any of the other fans on the Hub.) Done this way, all your case fans will be controlled together by the CHA_FAN header of the mobo that you used, while the CPU cooler will be controlled separately by the CPU_FAN header.
 
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