Upgrading my gaming PC, need help/suggestions (not my cup of tea)

Deekay64

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Hey I had my PC built a few years ago and am going to upgrade some stuff when the 1080ti comes out here soon. The only thing is I don't know much about computer parts in depth. Was wondering if you could help me out in suggesting some stuff.
Current build: I7-4770 3.4ghz 8mb... Gigabyte h87m-hd3 s1150 2ddr3... Corsair hydro series h80i CPU cooler... Ddr3 1600 8gb pc3-12800... Seagate 500gb SATA HD... Samsung SSD 250g 850 Evo 2.5"... Gigabyte gtx770 4gb gddr5... Asus 24x DVD-RW SATA... Antec 120mm blue LED case fan... Thermal take smart 650w 80 plus PS... Windows 7 64 bit...
Wanting to upgrade: 1080ti when it releases... Ddr3 1600 8gb pc3-12800... Samsung SSD 1tb 850 Evo 2.5"... Asus ROG Swift 27" monitor...
So my question is should I go with 32gb of ram or just get 16 of something else. Also will ddr4 work with my stuff and if so should I get that instead of my ddr3. Should I add more liquid cooling? Upgrade power supply? Processor to a 7700k? Upgrade motherboard?

Price range 2000-3000
 
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When you say "price range 2000-3000", is that invested amount, or actual upgrade amount? Also what currency is this in?

Anyways, likely good choice on the 1080 Ti, though you may want to look at AMD's upcoming Vega too. Personally I'd stick with Nvidia unless AMD can somehow manage much better pricing at near or equal performance. The software problems with AMD drivers alone are not worth it IMO, and I'm currently on an AMD btw.

The CPU end of things are looking good so far for AMD with their new Ryzen though. There's no user or even test site GAME benchmarks yet, but if HardOCP's CPU Mark benches are accurate, the X1700 8 core is easily beating the 6800k 6 core at tasking, and priced lower (price already confirmed at Fry's).

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When you say "price range 2000-3000", is that invested amount, or actual upgrade amount? Also what currency is this in?

Anyways, likely good choice on the 1080 Ti, though you may want to look at AMD's upcoming Vega too. Personally I'd stick with Nvidia unless AMD can somehow manage much better pricing at near or equal performance. The software problems with AMD drivers alone are not worth it IMO, and I'm currently on an AMD btw.

The CPU end of things are looking good so far for AMD with their new Ryzen though. There's no user or even test site GAME benchmarks yet, but if HardOCP's CPU Mark benches are accurate, the X1700 8 core is easily beating the 6800k 6 core at tasking, and priced lower (price already confirmed at Fry's).

The real problem is, it's all too soon yet to really know how the 1080 Ti will compare to Vega, or the Ryzen CPUs to Intel, when it comes to gaming. However it IS now known that a X1700 will cost only $50 more at launch than Fry's current price on a 7700k, which is pretty incredible considering it has twice as many cores and a MUCH higher CPU Mark score (which may or may not translate to gaming performance, depending on games).

So on the CPU end, considering the new products out now, it really depends how much you use your PC for tasking, editing, or anything non gaming related, but it also will depend on how many more devs continue to support 6 and 8 core threading in their games. I think that time is coming soon, if not already upon us. So if you're the type that keeps your systems for some time, you may want to consider that.

It also depends a lot whether AMD's Ryzen CPUs will drop pricing on Intel's units. That is very likely, and it may even affect their quad core CPU pricing.

As far as the RAM, you can't use DDR4 on an 1150 MB. I'd also say you don't need more than 16GB RAM, unless you're deep into 3D modeling or something.

So with DDR4, you'd be looking at a new MB, and that of course would mean a new CPU as well. It looks like your 4770 is not an unlocked k model, so you may be stuck at 3.4GHz. I'm pretty sure your H model MB is not OCable either anyway. Thus you'd likely bottleneck a 1080 Ti or Vega with the 4770. How much so would depend on how CPU dependent the game is.

The 7700k is a pretty decent CPU for now, but who knows how much longer 4 cores will be adequate for all games. It runs hot though (Ryzens are very low wattage btw, so they should run fairly cool). At any rate, you're going to need to wait a bit longer to find the info you're looking for, or even obtain some of the parts you want.
 
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Deekay64

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2000-3000$ is what I'll put in the upgrade. So for now are you suggesting upgrading mother board and processor? I'll upgrade again about every year or 2. I'm running on 4 years just because I was in between jobs and had a home built but now my past time needs the attention it used to get.
 

Well, the way I see it, it looks like you can afford it. Rather than doing it right now though, I'd wait to see how the AMD Ryzen CPU stacks up to Intel (they'll be out next month). You'll have to wait if you want to get a 1080 Ti anyhow, but again, I'd compare that to AMD's Vega.

Rumor has it Vega may debut end of May, and the 1080 Ti end of March. And keep in mind, even if you're leaning toward the 1080 Ti like I am, if you wait until Vega releases and it performs close or equal to the 1080 Ti at a lower price, it may drop the price of the 1080 Ti.

 

Deekay64

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That's a good idea. I'll probably wait for that. As far as the Vega I probably won't get. Just because I'm an Nvidia fan boy and ive got one g sync monitor and I'm getting the one I posted about.
 

Trust me, there's more reasons than that. I have no problem with AMD's hardware, especially in Doom 2016 where you can use Vulkan, but it's hard to say how many more devs will be using Vulkan. There are still annoying issues with AMD's drivers though, that's what puts me off the most.

I think Freesync compares well to G-Sync, and is of course cheaper and more prevalent, but their software sucks, especially the older your GPU gets.

They tend to abandon support quickly for older models, and tell you to roll back to older drivers as a solution. It wouldn't be a problem except then you're stuck with some of the newer games not having driver performance tweaks, which can make them run pretty bad.

 

Deekay64

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Well thank you alot. I basically will just be building a new PC minus my already liquid cooling and fans and power supply so I might just upgrade those in a few months after and have 2 nice pcs and let my son play the one start him out (he's 4) haha