AMD Ryzen vs Intel?

PatoGD

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I'm going to get a i5 7600k, I want to know if I should wait for the prices to drop down so Intel can comepte agianst Ryzen, will they drop down?
 
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wait for Ryzen. Between leaked benchmarks, the official "52% IPC gains", I think buying a new CPU is foolish this close to Ryzens launch. As of march second you could have, for another 100 dollars US, 4 more cores and 8 more threads (8C/16T) then you would with the i5 7600k (4C/4T). At the least intel will have to respond with price cuts though those are likely a month or so out. If you have to have a new PC today then get your i5. If you can wait a week and spend an extra 100 dollars (or shave 100 somewhere off your build to apply to CPU) then waiting for AMD's Ryzen 1700 would be your best bet and be far more future proof.

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why the 7600k RIGHT now? how do you know that a 4 core ryzen equivalent wont be better for the lower amount of money?

in short, no one knows what intel's going to do after ryzen is released, of if they will need to do anything at all.
 

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wait for Ryzen. Between leaked benchmarks, the official "52% IPC gains", I think buying a new CPU is foolish this close to Ryzens launch. As of march second you could have, for another 100 dollars US, 4 more cores and 8 more threads (8C/16T) then you would with the i5 7600k (4C/4T). At the least intel will have to respond with price cuts though those are likely a month or so out. If you have to have a new PC today then get your i5. If you can wait a week and spend an extra 100 dollars (or shave 100 somewhere off your build to apply to CPU) then waiting for AMD's Ryzen 1700 would be your best bet and be far more future proof.
 
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or waiting for the 4-core ryzen i5 equivalent will shave possibly $100 off your projected build, assuming the performance is where the leaks and AMD claims it is. if a 52% improvement in IPC is 100% true, it looks like we could have a core i5 rival for a ton less dough.
 

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Not where either performance-per-buck or multi-threaded performance beyond four thread workloads are concerned. If you had $300 to spend on a new CPU, would you prefer +80% compute performance from 8C16T Ryzen 1700 or +10% single-threaded performance from an i7? I know I'd be leaning Ryzen's way.
 

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Very true. Any word on when the SR5 and SR3 SKU's launch? If he is wanting to build right now that wait may be a bit longer then he is willing to go. A few days though 8C/16T is far more reasonable. Hopefully the SR5 and SR3 SKUs launch in the next month or so... next couple of weeks would be better but highly unlikely.
 

atomicWAR

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"I don't really trust AMD, I'll see how AMD performs and maybe i will think about it."

It's not about trusting AMD at this point. With the number of leaks with HW benchmarks from anonymous 3rd parties on sites right now...it's becoming very clear AMD knocked this one out of the park. Now there is no question we don't know all the nuanced performance numbers in every game/app. However with what has been released it would be unlikely the final retail product will be disappointing. It is fair to wait for the final reviews next week though. Just something to think about before buying intel atm.
 


Don't know if $300 is a fair comparison given an i5 7500 costs $190. ;.;
Compute performance doesn't always translate to gaming performance,, and i'm talking about the mid range here.
The utilization isn't there for 12 threads in the large majority of games atm, hence my concern.
 

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It isn't just leaks anymore: at Ryzen's preorder launch presentation, they gave press access to some test systems so they could run some test for themselves and the results are pretty much in line with the "leaks", better than the leaks in some case due to some of those leaks being based on engineering samples where power management wasn't working and the chip was operating at lower clock speeds because of it.
 

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True but games are getting better threaded all the time. BF1 in multiplayer crushes even the latest i5s for example. As for the CPU he wasn't asking about the i5 7500 it was the i5 7600k which has a higher price tag at 239. Point being the comparison becomes less of a stretch.
 

atomicWAR

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Absolutely true. Was just pointing out the general evidence that Ryzen is an outstanding CPU for AMD and for consumers alike at an unbeatable price tag. AMD has re-entered the HEDT space with a bang and Intel cannot ignore them for long. Either Intel will cut prices or move up CPU schedules and increase core counts...likely all of the above.
 
I would wait for the Ryzen line of cpu`s to become retail available, as said with the official confirmation today that the new
Ryzen cpu line up has a 52% IPC improvement for single cpu core calculations for a 1700X chip.

8-core 16-thread Ryzen 1700X $399 £320 39% better performance than a Intel 6800K