Z270E Vs Maximus IX Hero

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Hi, I am going to build a PC: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3ZyN9W

And I am wondering if I should stick with the Z270E or pay a bit more for The Maximus IX Hero, I already have a netgaer wna 3100: https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-N300-Wi-Fi-Adapter-WNA3100/dp/B003G2Z1M6. Can someone tell me which benefits I will get with the maximus ix hero and if I should buy it
 
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The Hero is highly overpriced ... boards with comparable feature sets are $50 less.

You can compare the feature sets here:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?CompareItemList=%2D1%7C13%2D132%2D928%5E13%2D132%2D928%2C13%2D132%2D927%5E13%2D132%2D927

Hero supports higher memory speed, not a factor with your RAM.
Hero doesn't have WiFi ... should not be factor as a build of this cost would be somewhat wasted on WiFi.
You get a RoG Sticker and coaster :) w/ the Hero

We won't settle in on a fav Z270 MoBo for another 2 months or so but so far It's the Gigabyte Gaming K7

Build comments ... things to consider before pulling the trigger

1. The Kraken isn't going to deliver anything that a good air cooler can't do at half the...
The Hero is highly overpriced ... boards with comparable feature sets are $50 less.

You can compare the feature sets here:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?CompareItemList=%2D1%7C13%2D132%2D928%5E13%2D132%2D928%2C13%2D132%2D927%5E13%2D132%2D927

Hero supports higher memory speed, not a factor with your RAM.
Hero doesn't have WiFi ... should not be factor as a build of this cost would be somewhat wasted on WiFi.
You get a RoG Sticker and coaster :) w/ the Hero

We won't settle in on a fav Z270 MoBo for another 2 months or so but so far It's the Gigabyte Gaming K7

Build comments ... things to consider before pulling the trigger

1. The Kraken isn't going to deliver anything that a good air cooler can't do at half the price .. except more noise. For $150.. you are getting a weak pump, an aluminum radiator and a system in which you can not add corrosion inhibitors to counteract the galvanic action between the copper block and aluminum rad. For the same price, you could get a set of custom loop components, pre-assembled at the factory. with powerful pump, copper rads and which blows the Kraken outta the water (pun intended)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYKdKVxbnp8

Noctua Air Cooler = 70C @ 33dbA
Kraken X61 = 69C @ 56 dbA
H220-X = 65C @ 43 dbA
H240-X = 64C @ 46 dbA

The H220-x gives you 4C lower temps while being less than half as loud. It comes with a real water cooling pump capable of adding more blocks (and rads) if you want to go to water cooled GFX cards or even SLI / CF. It has copper rads for better cooling efficiency and elimination of galvanic corrosion issues ... and it's the same price and comes with a reservoir.

http://www.swiftech.com/h220x2.aspx

They come in 2 x 120mm, 3 x 120mm and 2 x 140mm models

H220-X2-COLOR-PICS.jpg


2. 3 TB HDs have a substantially higher (2 - 5 times) failure rate then 2 TB models. Also, while the SSD will give you a boost for things that wind up being placed there, what about what goes on the HD ? ... no speed benefit there. You can increase this by at least 50% in gaming with a SSHD

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NpBrxr/seagate-firecuda-2tb-35-7200rpm-hybrid-internal-hard-drive-st2000dx002

3. The S340 case is a very good case ... **in its price range**. It does seem a bit outta place tho for a build of this magnitude.

4. I think you will be disappointed with that headset. My son replaced his broken G430 (was only one in store) with that one as a stop gap until he could buy something better and he is unhappy with it. He is a bit annoyed as the 430 is the same price as the 930.

 
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I agree ASUS is overpriced, but they are also an industry giant, which is how they can get away with this. Their UEFI is worlds better than Gigabyte and that's how they're better for OCing. The Hero unfortunately is one of the most overpriced boards. It strips features that were in the Z270E Strix and against other boards is lacking. Gigabyte gives you dual LAN, SATA Express, and U.2, but Hero gives you none of that. Personally I'm struggling with the Hero as an option too but Gigabyte's OCing is so far behind it's kinda shocking. So on paper they look great but once you use their BIOS you realize it's completely lacking.
 
I agree that the Asus BIOS is much more intuitive but that doesn't mean you can't accomplish the same thing. In my experience as well as published reviews, Asus lost the performance edge thru Z87 / Z97 ... they caught back up with Z170 but have not separated themselves from the pack as they did w/ Z77 and prior.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/msi_z97_gaming_6_review/10

The ranking is based on setting the board which recorded the highest combined fps in the gaming tests at 100% and ranking the others by fps as a % of the fastest one.

MoBo % of Leader

MSI Z97 Gaming 9 - 100.00%
MSI Z97 Gaming 5 - 99.86%
MSI Z97A Gaming 6 - 98.96%
Asus Z97 TUF Sabranco - 96.13%
Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 5 - 95.00%
Gigabyte Z97X SOC Force - 94.95%
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Hero - 93.67%
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Formula - 93.58%
Asus Z97 Maximus VII Gene - 91.69%
Asus Z97-A - 89.57%
MSI Z97 Mpower MAX AC - 88.20%
MSI Z97S Krait SLI - 71.01%

While many of the long term OC'ers tend to "stay w/ what they know" .... we generally don't see as much unfortunately for other brands. I'd be the 1st to say that I struggle w/ Giga's BIOS but in the end that job gets done, even MSI has me digging for things and finding a setting takes me longer than I'd like.

My main problem however remains as you have described. The cost premium is ridiculous and is just too big, for a pretty BIOS. And the latest foray, led by Asus w/ Z170 and now by taken up by other manufacturers w/ the substandard audio subsystems up tot he $150 - $180 or so price niche to push a few more bucks into the margins column has me doing a Nancy Reagan and "I just say No". We pretty much were an Asus only shop from 2002 to 2012, but the price gouging has not been my only issue:

High end WS build, failed MoBo took 3 months to get an RMA .. and this with "Premium Service" in which they ship you replacement BEFORE you send back old one. The replacement was bent like a banana an even w/ pressure applies it was so bent that couldn't get I/O panel into case opening... entire RMA process was handled by Pegatron BTW, (parent of AsRock).

Three Z87 boards afflicted by clock freeze bug ... Forum TS acknowledges problem, state that BIOS fix coming. Telephone support says that Asus as no knowledge of issue.

If a new BIOS comes out, say like when Kaby Lake support is available for Sky lake boards, you don't update cause you have no need for KL support .. then no TS.

I too miss the BIOS and I'd use Asus Gaming boards again, but not with the $$50 - $75 RoG tax and the lack of decent audio on low and moderately priced boards. The Sabertooth is a board I still use tho.

I also enjoyed seeing that Asus has followed MSI's lead and reinforced the PCI slots and made other on board component upgrades and also seems to have taken a node from Giga w/ better power delivery.
 

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MSI does deserve credit. Their UEFI is VASTLY cleaned up to the point where it looks better than ASUS'. ASRock hasn't really changed since the Z77 days and the still offer good value, but Gigabyte's UEFI is just in the dust.

I am however very surprised by the varying results of these motherboards--didn't think the same chipset would make a 10% difference in framerate.

Also maybe we should look at Z270 results instead :)

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/msi_z270_gaming_m7_review/14
 
BTDT ... been looking since the 1st one and still waiting for a means to draw conclusions for the Z270 results ...13 boards from Asus (but no Hero which is subject of conversation) , only 2 Giga...gonna have to wait for a wider spread before any broad conclusions can be drawn ... and the GoW thing needs to be taken out:

1) Way too wide a variance... something off
2) Like anyone cares is its 216 or 316
3) Points to a tweaking thing

The other 3 results are closely grouped.

But as for the OC which is where you were concerned you were concerned about, the top board and the worse board on the list both hit 5.1 GHz ... as did the Gigabyte models