Need a budget pc build configuration for a carreer in architecture

thanks for the suggestion @raisonjohn

i am thinking of quadro M2000 for gpu

and 16GB for memory

but still looking for better configs ..have time till june

more suggestions guys

System: For your uses, 3D modeling requires a good single-thread - one core-performance, and the i7-7700K has the highest score in that category. However, the output of the work is rendering and in order to have CPU rendering capability, which has a better image quality for single images, having at least a six core CPU is a good approach. To have a fast single-thread rate and a lot of cores is typically expensive.

CPU: But, only in the last few days, the pre-release tests of the new AMD Ryzeon series processors have the potential to completely alter the market. The first series are AM4 8-cores with healthy clock speeds, and they are astoundingly reasonably priced, the Ryzen 1700X is 8 core@ 3.4/3.8GHz costing only $399. On Geekbench 3, the single threaded score is 4356 as compared to the i7-7700K 4792. It's not surprising that the 4-core i7 would have a better score, but the 1700X has a score of 155 wins by two points over the i7-6900K 8C@ 3.2/3.8GHz using 140W and cost $1,050- a more fair comparison. > The CPU costing 38% of the other is still faster.

GPU: The news is also encouraging in the GPU world- another amazing bargain is on the way. NVIDIA is releasing in March new Pascal Quadros including a replacement for the M2000 4GB, the P2000 which is 160=bit and 5GB. The price may be about $50 more than the M2000- $475 or so. In tests, the P2000 is faster than the M4000 8GB, for example scoring 7.37 on a Solidworks shaded with edges mode test against the M4000 at 7.10 and the M5000- a $1,900 GPU at 7.35. Solidworks is tough customer too requiring a very strong single-thread action. In summary, run don't walk to the local Quadro store when the P2000 arrives.

Here's an idea:

High Performance 2D /3D /Rendering System_2.26.17

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700X 3.4/3.8GHz 8-Core Processor ($399.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B350-PLUS AM4 AMD ATX Motherboards - AMD ($99.99)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 Tower Cooler For AMD ($34.99)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($159.99 @ Jet)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PNY Quadro M2000 4GB Video Card ($426.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung ZenDrive GP65NB60/BLK/G/AS ($29.99)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($68.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Suppressor F51 ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit ($128.31 @ OutletPC)
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Total= $1619.16

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-26 07:12 EST-0500

With monitor /keyboard and mouse, that will be close to over $1,800, but the 8-cores fro rendering in that price range is close to magic.

Another approach is the one I use, which is to buy a used workstation and upgrade:

HP Z420 WORKSTATION Computer 500GB 8GB XEON E5-1650 V2 (HEXA-CORE) W/HT #30592# Sold for $349.98 (12.25.16)

That a really good Xeon- 6 Core@3.5/3.9Ghz and the z420 is very quiet and ultra reliable. Best of all, it's really usable out of the box and there is a lot support at one place- hp.com- manuals BIOS, drivers firmware. We have three HP z's in the office along with four Dell Precisions.

The low price of the system means it could be upgraded to 32GB (DDR3-1866 ECC), a 500GB SSD and fast 2TB storage drive, and plenty left over for a pair of good 24" or even 27" monitors.

So, in a few weeks, there will be great steps in cost/performance in both CPU's and GPU's or the used workstation is attractively priced and easy to do and performance is completely useful.

If you build, when you are closer to building the system, you might consider changing to the 1800X 3.6/4.0Gz- $499 (= +$100)- which has been overclocked on liquid Nitrogen to 5.2Ghz but is said to run easily at 4.5GHz at which point the single-threaded score is the same as the 4/5GHz i7-7700K- except the 1700X has twice as many cores.

If you decide on the 1800X, also look at the ASUS Prime 370X motherboard - about $150. Those two changes- $100 + $50 would have a lot of affect.

Later, consider upgrading to 32GB of RAM. In the list above, the RAM is 2X 16GB so another 16Gb can be added. Ryzen is dual channel memory, so there is no penalty for running with two modules. I recently was unable to run a large rendering of a complex model as the 32Gb system ran out of memory.

It amazing to think of the very high level of performance possible under $2,000. A few days ago I was almost pushing the buy button for a used $1,100 Xeon E5-1680 v2 - 8C @ 3.0 /3.8GHz or I'd buy 2X E5-2667 v2's at about $1,000 each. Today, the plan is different

Cheers,

BambiBoom

CAD / 3D Modeling / Graphic Design:

HP z420 (2015) (Rev 3) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) / 32GB DDR3 -1866 ECC RAM / Quadro K4200 (4GB) / Samsung SM951 M.2 256GB AHCI + Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) + Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card + Logitech z2300 2.1 speakers > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit >> 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)
[ Passmark Rating = 5581 > CPU= 14046 / 2D= 838 / 3D= 4694 / Mem= 2777 / Disk= 11559] [6.12.16]

Analysis / Simulation / Rendering:

HP z620 (2012) (Rev 3) 2X Xeon E5-2690 (8-core @ 2.9 / 3.8GHz) / 64GB DDR3-1600 ECC reg) / Quadro K2200 (4GB) + Tesla M2090 (6GB) / HP Z Turbo Drive (256GB) + Samsung 850 Evo 250GB + Seagate Constellation ES.3 (1TB) / Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCIe sound card + Logitech z313 2.1 speakers / 800W / Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > > HP 2711x (27" 1980 X 1080)
[ Passmark System Rating= 5675 / CPU= 22625 / 2D= 815 / 3D = 3580 / Mem = 2522 / Disk = 12640 ] 9.25.16
[ Cinebench R15: OpenGL= 119.23 fps / CPU = 2209 cb / Single core 130 cb / MP Ratio 16.84x] 10.31.16[/quotemsg]
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bambiboom

your suggestion was very helpful

but i have been learning about the processors , gpus a lot lately
i learnt that intel (i5,i7) processors are expensive but better suited for 3d modelling , rendering , animations , etc (professional workload)
and amd processors are cheaper with more cores , etc but are only good for gaming

i also heard that intel (xeon) processors are good for servers no matter how many cores they have similar to the amd processors .
if i am wrong please guide me because i am very confused ...because i too believe that more cores , better the workload can be split and handled

and as for the gpu thank you so much for the information about P2000 i am looking forward to it .

looking forward for your reply

pavitran_12

lodders

well said you are right but the only reason i made a budget of 1700 $(including monitor) is to buy the latest suitable processor and a good gpu which would allow me to work for another 4 years without having to upgrade thus made the config..min ,req standard as :

i7 processor , 16-32 gb ram , 512 gb ssd , quadro M2000/ Geforce gtx 1070

more then rendering i want my pc to run smoothly when i am in the 3d designing process without any lag

thanks for your reply , looking forward for more responses

redneck5439

thanks for the info on the AMD's Ryzen processor will keep an eye on that . I never thought about the amd processors till now but now i am thinking maybe why not give it a try . waiting eagerly to purchase on june

thank you very much , waiting for more options

pavitran_12

wow first generation with that much power hope they work well with no errors heard amd makes more errors compared to intel processors

if everything goes well in AMD i might even prefer Amd FirePro gpu to Quadro pascal series .
wont it better if both cpu and gpu come from the same place .

Bambiboom

thank you so much for the info you cleared all my doubts about the cores , processors ,etc
now i have a clear view to what a rendering device requires and a 3d modelling device in terms of processor.
i am also fixed on the P2000 series as my gpu and AMD RYZEN 7 1800X as my processor but the only problem i face now is my budget (1700 $)

i have to buy everything else for the cpu and also the monitor within this price range
i love your suggested configuration once i make money i could afford it but now fully dependent on my dad and i am squeezing a few 100 $ from my pockets to reach (1700$)

still thank you for the knowledge it was very useful

i am buying on june so i think we will know how it performs by then ...

The basic configuration given is a good one, but if its out of your budget you can substitute a few items. You can substitute one of the solid state drives for a conventional Barracuda HDD 2TB and save about $100. You could also go with 32GB of RAM to start with and then get another 32GB if and when you need it. Those two things alone will save you around $300. You could also go with a more budget minded case and save around $50 more, just make sure you get a bigger mid or full tower. You can play around with those things till it fits your budget, but you want to keep the processor, CPU cooler, motherboard, power supply all about the same as they are good suggestions without going overboard.

yeah thanks i think it will be a good idea

thank you ,
i think its a good configuration i would just love it more if it was 32 gb of ram and 500 gb ssd the rest are cool
maybe the prices would be more suitable for me by june

hi
thankyou for your concern ...dont worry
i am still waiting for the products review till the beginning of june so if it doesnt work out i can always go back to intel
i wont spend the money unless i am 100% sure about the products performance .

if you can suggest me a better intel version config for my requirements i am open to all suggestions within my budget i will pick the right one at the end .

i will ask for final check after i make my choice on june before i make the purchase .