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So I am looking to purchase a MSI Z170-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard and pair it along with G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory, however when I look at the specs for the Mobo it says i'll have to overclock it to be able to run the RAM?

This is my first PC build and I want it all to go well (sort of a plug and chug mentality) and to get longevity out of the rig, what would be the long term affects be on the MOBO and would I be able to even run the RAM on it if i chose NOT to OC it?
 
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9tc3jc

Here's a solid build. You can keep the SSD or not. I didn't add a case, you need to. The i5 will do just the same for you as a i7 in the 7 series.

7th gen chips need premium cooling. Don't skimp. The 212 is garbage.
You can choose to get a 7700k but don't get a crap board or cooling.

The 1060 isn't bad and you can choose to upgrade that too.

I didn't add a monitor.
You need windows on your system.
Pick between 8 or 16gb ram and remove one set.

Please don't listen to the hype train of aio cooling sucks. It works pretty well. This comes from me owning a 7700k AND a h115. Mine works outstanding.
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a) Don't worry, it will work fine and last a very long time.

b) Don't bother, there is hardly any real world performance difference between 2133Mhz memory and 3000Mhz memory.

Also, I assume from your choice of motherboard that you are planning to do some overclocking of the CPU. This can be great fun as a hobby, but you often spend a lot of extra money for a little extra performance. Sweet spot for cost effectiveness is probably an i5 7500 running on a decent H110 motherboard.
 
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Lodders any overclock will bring a performance increase. 2133 to 3000 is almost a 50% increase in raw bandwidth. This allows foR effectively 1.5 times the data handling rate, which will see loading time decreased in larger files and an improvement in baseline fps in games.

It's not a super big difference but you will notice.
 
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So this is my first build ever, I was pretty PC illiterate before, but with some proper research and advice from friends and coworkers, I believe Ive built a substantial PC to meet my needs. However, I dont want to over or under compensate my build and always welcome more advice!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LdGWPs

The goal is to be able to play AAA titles, other competitive titles and potentially stream at a high quality. (quality of gaming > streaming though)
So if there are any areas where I can save money or splurge a bit more please let me know!

I am currently playing on Asus X751LX model, i7-5500 2.4 ghz, 950M Nvidia GTX 2G, with 8G RAM to compare the type of upgrade I will see.
 
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9tc3jc

Here's a solid build. You can keep the SSD or not. I didn't add a case, you need to. The i5 will do just the same for you as a i7 in the 7 series.

7th gen chips need premium cooling. Don't skimp. The 212 is garbage.
You can choose to get a 7700k but don't get a crap board or cooling.

The 1060 isn't bad and you can choose to upgrade that too.

I didn't add a monitor.
You need windows on your system.
Pick between 8 or 16gb ram and remove one set.

Please don't listen to the hype train of aio cooling sucks. It works pretty well. This comes from me owning a 7700k AND a h115. Mine works outstanding.
 
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Staplergun is right, faster memory is better, it can make a big difference in gaming....

BUT, only when you have spent $1400 on a pair of GTX980Ti graphics cards. If you only have one 980Ti or less, the faster memory makes no difference when gaming.
However, if you use photoshop, the faster memory will make a noticeable improvement.

See this article for more detail http://www.techspot.com/article/1171-ddr4-4000-mhz-performance/page4.html
 
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The Mobo I listed is solid for you if you get the 7700k. Ram bandwidth will make a difference. 3000mhz has 25% more bandwidth than a base clock 2400. At that point you can usually very easily get up to 3200. After that it gets difficult and marginal in improvement unless you can get up to 4000 for another 25% increase over the 3000, or almost 50-75% increase from 2400.

Bandwidth is the biggest deciding factor for ram performance.

3200 or 3000 would be solid.


Regardless of what's in the system, unless the cpu can't process the data fast enough to exercise the ram, which a 7700k for sure will, you will see differences in framerate of anywhere from 15-50 or at least a higher baseline and total average.
 
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