Want to build own PC, please help me!

What is your budget?

take your pick of any z270 motherboards.

for motherboard, go for msi z270 mortar or asrock fatality
ram g kill ripjaw series 3000 mhz 2x8gb or corsair vengence 3000, patriot viper 2800/3000
ssd i would suggest 850 evo, zotac premium edition 240gb, pny cs2211 240gb, mushkin reactor 256gb, patrot ignite if its 2.5 sata
960 evo, my digital ssd bpx, corsair force mp500, plextor m8pe

What you probably should be looking at, not including the cooler:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (€245.84 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: ASRock Z270 Killer SLI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€145.97 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€125.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: ADATA Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€83.84 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB ROG STRIX Video Card (€324.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Acrylic ATX Mid Tower Case (€93.84 @ Mindfactory)
PSU: FSP Fortron Hydro 500, 80 Plus Bronze Zertifikation, PC Netzteil 500 Watt, kompatibel mit neuesten Standards ATX12V und EPS12V, 5 Millionen US Dollar Produkthaftungsversicherung, schwarz (€44.99)
Total: €1064.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-02-27 13:37 CET+0100

Information that I'm seeing about the Alpenföhn Olymp shows that it's 165mm tall, and the P400S only support cooler of 160mm tall. You could opt for the standard version of the Pro M with a smaller window that is about the same cost as the P400S.

The ADATA SU800 SSD is the best option among the cheaper choices available.

Corsair LPX @ 3000Mhz : low profile so that they'd cause the least interference to the big air tower cooler. 3000Mhz is supported on motherboard with Z170/270 chipset.

ASRock Z270 Killer SLI, two reinforced PCIe x16 slots supporting SLI and two M2 slots support two NVMe PCIe 3.0 x4 devices at full bandwidth without disabling any SATA port like on many MB with older chipset. Z270 chipset support overclocking the unlocked K CPU. And it has four PCIe 3.0 x1 giving you options as to where the TV card and sound card can be plugged in.

Really depends on your budget. First, if I were you, I'd wait until Ryzen and Vega are released. If your system is decent enough for now, waiting a couple or so weeks will only give you more options. Ryzen is right around the corner, you'd do well to wait and see the benchmarks before making a decision.

But if you'd rather not wait: MyDigitalSSD BPX 480Gb, according to the review on this site, while not as fast as the 960 Evo 512 Gb, sells for a bit less and offers better endurance. The 960 Pro 512 Gb is a bit pricey, but faster than its evo counterpart with better quality NAND. Motherboard is a matter of preference. From Asus to Asrock, all are competitive. Take the time to check some reviews and visit sites, see which suits your taste and budget best. Once you decide on a board, it can't hurt to check the QVL list before deciding on RAM. Some RAM will work properly only if you get a kit of 2-4 sticks, while others will be listed without the kit requirement.

I like this one, but 300+€ for the 1060 6gb? noooo..
Just get a nice RX480 like the PowerColor Red Devil which goes for something like 239€ and it's highly overclocked.
The 480 cards looks better positioned for the future titles (DX12)

Warning: wall of text incoming. tl;dr version at the bottom.



With ASROCK, basically just avoid the most basic & cut-down version from their line-up. From mid to high-end stuff, they're fine. ex: their top-of-the-line Z270 SuperCarrier can hold an i5 7600k @ 4.8Ghz with just 1.15V Vcore through an Intel Burn Test.

As for cooler that fit and can do the job well while being not too noisy: be quiet! PURE ROCK or Cryorig H7.



The GTX 1060 has better performance/watt; while the RX 480, often being priced quite lower, have better performance/$.
The GTX 1060 is better than a RX 480, but it's not 80€ better, which is why the RX 480 has the better price/performance.
Really though, with nVIDIA tightened control of this generation card, all GTX1060 perform about the same; so long that it's not too hot where you are, all twin/triple fans GTX 1060 would do a fine job keeping the card from being heat-throttled and therefore, again, keeping performance about the same.


Personally, I'd say the Sapphire R9 Fury 4GB HBM for roughly 300€ would have been the best performance/price wise. Seeing that the GTX1060/RX480 only trades blow with the GTX 970 while the Fury would be coming at GTX980 Ti tier.

But the Fury high power consumption and the untested nature of the FSP Hydro Bronze (and that it has only 38A/456W on its 12V rail) make me feel reserved about making that recommendation (Fury could consume ~250-300W under load, and an overclocked i5k could also get to a maximum of ~100W, making it pretty uncomfortable combo to use with the Hydro 500W).



Basically, AMD is poised to release their latest CPU, the Ryzen 1800x/1700x/1700 (on March 2nd); all three are 8 cores 16 threads with the 1700 being priced at around where an 4 cores 8 threads i7 would be. That together with the fact that early benchmark (albeit supplied mostly by AMD, I believe) suggested that AMD has managed to close in on Intel with regards to single core performance and power consumption.

This make the tech watchers feel that if everything line up right, Intel may have to respond, and one of the way for Intel to respond was to cut prices to compete (some optimist suggest that the AMD Ryzen 4c/8t may go into sub $200 range and would cause serious trouble for the 4c/4t i5).

Which is why people who are thinking of higher budget and is not in a hurry to get a new build right now are generally recommended to wait until Ryzen, its benchmark & review are released (and the expected Intel response) before committing their money.

Especially now that you've expressed that the computer's purpose is for:

graphic design, some games, sometimes a little of video editing and maybe sometimes streaming.

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Which is where Ryzen may very well excel at, and cause a disruption in pricing soon.


tl;dr :
- ASROCK MB is fine from their midrange or higher.
- Cooler that fit, is not noisy, and can cool decently: Cryorig H7 and be quiet! Pure Rock.
- GTX 1060 while better than RX 480, it's not 80€ better.
- Now, knowing your intended workload for the PC, it is highly recommended that you delay this build if possible, because you may very well stand to benefits greatly from waiting until after Ryzen are released.

The information so far seem to suggest that Ryzen need some time to mature. Applications, drivers, firmware and such will need to be optimized.

Out of the gate, a Ryzen build would do better at streaming & video editing while Intel config would do better at gaming. Performance in graphic design is similar, but there is a possibility of becoming Ryzen leaning when the aforementioned applications, drivers, firmware are optimized.

So, if streaming/video editing are something you'd like to involve yourself in extensively, AMD Ryzen is the better pick (after more MBs are released; the one that are available and in your price range have their PCIe x1 slots in rather inconvenient position for your two expansion cards).

Pricing-wise, because the Ryzen 7 line-up appear compete on professional applications with X99 platform, I'd guess that in the short term, pricing for that X99 MB and LGA2011 would be the one that got move around the most. Z170/270 & LGA1151 probably less so.

But it will be a few months until the next wave of Ryzen 5, 6cores 12 threads, that promise higher clock/overclock that may prove a threat to Intel LGA1151 (AMD Ryzen 7 already proved that they really are almost there in single-threaded performance with Intel Kabylake). So who knows.

Personally, I don't think that there will be an extreme price cut from Intel for their LGA1151 in the near term ($20-$30 sound likely; Ryzen 5 would have to perform amazingly well to drive the price of LGA1151 i5/i7 down more than that; then again it is not an impossibility that Intel may surprise us, and attempt to pull the rug from underneath AMD with extensive price cut).

It depends. If you're looking for a gaming rig, wait a tad for AMD to optimize, be it firmware/driver/other patch updates, and Intel should be dropping their prices soon enough. Intel has a lot of influence in the reviews, has even, once again apparently issued a message to the major reviewers to "call them before releasing their reviews". Taken from Guru 3D: "Intel's PR department is contacting media and calling in favors with the press by issuing them "guidelines" on how to review AMD Ryzen. Intel's PR emails include this line: "call us before you write." There are pages of reports of intel doing this.

Short answer... If strictly for gaming, and you're determined to get a 4 core/8 thread kaby lake: At least wait for Intel to drop their prices on their overpriced cpu's. Patience is a virtue. Ryzen's well built, 8core/16 thread, soldered skus are an excellent value vs the overpriced Intel chips they're directly competing against. AMD is being criticized and questioned on things Intel should have been confronted on long ago, yet still haven't. Intel must lower their prices on their latest chips, hopefully in a short time.