Whick GTX 1060 Is better?

By a mile

I kinda one for if you know NVidia you know evga .. I guess also look at if you were to get a lemon card or issues down the road how will satisfy you ?

in the U.S hard to beat evga service and RMA if ever needed , then the evga card offers a higher guaranteed clock rate out of the box as well

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good luck

'' But the top one for sure the other two will be slow and loud '' ???? ''the evga card offers a higher guaranteed clock rate out of the box as well '' I hope that don't make it ''slower'' ???

and don't know how you figure any card is louder then the next ??

I prefer 480s as they are cheaper and basically perform identically. Any 2 (or 3) fan version would be fine. Those small ones and blower style are just too loud under load

Those itx cards always run hot, so I guess I should have said slow or loud. Tom's did a test on a bunch of them. All were slower and louder than a modest oced full sized card

heres a 2 fan with the same clock rates as that single fan ? 249 after rebate ?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487275

that card will not run any hotter then the rest

he aint got a clue by the way the single fan evga 1060 is the 2ed most reviewed / poplar card at newegg ??

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https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20601205646&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=REVIEWS&PageSize=36


good luck with that best answered one ...

Only one of them isn't a mini or reference card. so among the 3, the Giga is the better choice. before pulling the trigger tho, I'd suggest going here

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/

Putting "1060" in the windows and looking at what's listed.

MSI GeForce GTX 1060 Gaming X 6 GB (9.8 rating - $260 on on pcpartpicker)
Gigabyte GTX 1060 Xtreme Gaming 6 GB (9.8 rating - $280 on pcpartpicker)
MSI GeForce GTX 1060 OC 6 GB (9.7 rating - $240 on pcpartpicker)
Palit GTX 1060 Super JetStream 6 GB (9.7 rating - no pricing)
ASUS GTX 1060 STRIX OC 6 GB (9.0 - $280 on pcpartpicker)
MSI GeForce GTX 1060 Armor OC 6 GB (9.4 rating - $254 on pcpartpicker)

What about is there any other graphic card for the same price and is better?

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yes, see above ... the Gigabyte Xtreme and MSI Gaming X score higher, the Gaming X is the same price, the MSI OC is $20 cheaper but not currently stocked on Amazon

If you do the 480 ., make sure it's the MSI ... see techpowerup article.

Canned 480 / 1060 data comparison below:

================================================The correct choice will ultimately depend on what games you play. What we know:

1. Which one - Not all cards are created equal but this is especially true with the RX 480. Techpowerup writes:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/RX_480_Gaming_X/28.html

In my opinion, this is thus far the only RX 480 that looks like it can compete with the GTX 1060 and its custom designs.

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2. Out of the Box performance - So let's compare two cards from the same (MSI) manufacturer and model line (Gaming X). From above link:

As a result, the card is 4% faster than the RX 480 reference and 6-7% slower than the [reference] GeForce GTX 980, GTX 1060, and Radeon R9 Fury, which all have roughly the same performance at 1080p.

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3. AIB Cards - From the above, we see that the MSI RX 480 is 7% faster overall in TPUs 16 game test suite. From Below, the MSI 1060 Gaming X is 3% faster than the reference 1060 ... so we can can conclude that at the time of testing the MSI 1060 was 10% faster than the MSI 480 in the 16 game test suite

4. Overclocking - We see there that the MSI 480 overclocks 8.6% and the MSI 1060 overclocks 15.1%.. So when the 1060 (10% performance advantage) is overclocked, the relative difference would be:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/RX_480_Gaming_X/26.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Gaming_X/27.html

110% x (115.1 / 108.6) = 116.6% of the 480s speed or 16.6 % faster

As for difference between brands ... the various brands trade wins depending on generation and model line but the EVGA SC is one to avoid as, unlike the competition, they use a reference PCB and referece style PCB cooling.

5. Driver improvements - AMDs driver improvements have improved the performance of the 480 since originally tested. As we can see from the link here, TPU tested the results from the latest driver improvements and found an increase if 2.1% at 1080 p average across 21 games:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_Crimson_ReLive_Drivers/6.html

Unfortunately, we have no info on what improvements have resulted from newer nVidia drivers but suffice to say, those improvements have not erased that 10% gap outta the box (16.6% in both overclocked.

6. Cost - Last I looked (yesterday) the MSI 1060 6GB was about $15 more than the MSI 480 8GB on newegg. But there are other costs worth considering

7. Power - There is a significant difference in power usage between the two cards. One of the reasons for the MSI 480s performance,as stated in the review, is because it is able to use more power than many other 480s. That's 75 watts in typical gaming and 99 watts peak

The MSI 480 draws from 196 - 224 watts
The MSI 1060 draws from 121 - 125 watts

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/RX_480_Gaming_X/21.html

8. Power Costs - While this is something you normally wouldn't consider, when cards are very close in performance, it may be of significance to many users, especially those in Europe and especially in urban / suburban locales.

75 watts x 35 hours per week x 52.14 weeks per year x 3 years usage x $0.131 US average electric cost per kw-hr / (1000 watts per kw=hr x 85% efficiency) = $63.28

9. Case Cooling - The rule of thump for case fans in a relatively quiet system is one (1) case fan per 75 watts for power. So for comparable interior case temps, you might want to include the cost of an extra case fan.

10. Noise - The 480 is 3 dbA louder than the 1060

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/RX_480_Gaming_X/22.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Gaming_X/23.html

So ... that's the data ... it's up to you to look at what you want to do with it ...

- If you don't use MSI Afterburner, then the OC advantage may be of no interest to you
- If you wear headphones, then the noise advantage will be of no interest to you
- Initially the 480 has an apparent cost advantage but the larger PSU requirement and extra case fan eats that up. Considering power costs along with the preceding, the 1060 is the more cost effective buy by far
- If you already have an oversized PSU then the power advantage is of no interest to you
- If you don't pay for electricity cause it's included in rent, then the power advantage is of no interest to you
- But most of all, if those 16 - 21 games that TPU uses for testing are not ones you play, then you need to pay specific attention to how each performs in games you do play... so start here and see how each performs in the games you are interested in.


https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/RX_480_Gaming_X/6.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Gaming_X/6.html

How each individual arrives at their choice will be different for everyone, there is no "wrong choice" here.

lol...... heck just linked the 2 fan from newegg on a evga with higher clocking out of the box ?? for 245 ??? wheres that at jack ???

plus evga's by far better support ''for if you know NVidia , you know evga ''


don't forget when you show them reviews to show that the 1060 or any card use there to compare to may of been a low end reference cards results not a aftermarket oc card as the one being reviewed ..

did you look in to that ?? that's how them results get truth stretched a bit

thing is you want the best clocked out of the box card for the price no point getting a 1000 MHz for 200 bucks when the same in the series is 1250 at the same or near the same price . and with evga if you were to get a bad card they try to cover it quick and easy and will cross ship if needed they allways hold the highest enduser satisfaction rating of most any brand as well .

not to say there perfect but when you get one that's not you will be glad then you choose a evga when you need to return it to them

good luck

compare 2 msi cards using the same tested games and look at the 480 from the 1060 review and then the 1060 from the 480 review ???? well. well

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/RX_480_Gaming_X/10.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1060_Armor/8.html

1. I can't create a review and ranking where one doesn't exist. It's a link of 1060 reviews done by techpowerup. if EVGA didn't submit a card for review, how can I be expected to list the ranking for one ?

2. We stopped using EVGA SC series cards starting with the failed 5xx series models where overclockers were frying VRMs left and right. Ever since, EVGA continues to use the stock VRM on the SC series and also skimps on PCB cooling solutions which lead to a multitude of problems.

The FTW series was OK, but it costs far more than competitor's cards. I am not interested in "in the box" clocks

a) Historically the EVGA has had a decent factory OC but little overclocking headroom
b) I have wrestled with EVGA (20 support calls over 18 months / 5 RMAs) with cards that fail to meet their advertised factory overclocks

I am interested in cards with capability to support higher OCs manually applied with Afterburner where the VRM doesn't go up in smoke, or limit the OC

-How about the EVGA 970 SC where one of the three heat pipes completely missed the GPU ? How about the missing thermal pads and cheap VRM ?
https://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/09/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-review/3

-How about the lame excuse in response to the above, where they **insisted** that "they designed it that way on purpose" ... and then proceeded to replace the SC with the SSC model which corrected the heat pipe issue but left the cheap VRM and still skimped on thermal pads.

-How about the VRM fires on the 1070 / 1080 or VRM temps at 114C ... this time extending to the FTW line . Yes, they supplied thermal pad kits to those who asked but how do those consumers get that 1 hour of their life back installing them ? ... what is an hour of your time worth ?

In response to consumer backlash, EVGA just mounted a huge advertising campaign to shed the stigma of past VRM cooling failures:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/evga-sc15-qr-cooling-icx,33387.html

The company couldn’t reveal hard specs (due to the cooler’s patent-pending status), and the new cards look strikingly similar to the previous ACX-cooled graphics cards. However, there were several notable upgrades we could see, including thermal pads, a changed backplate material, and different fans (all of which are presumably better). But why is EVGA coming out with a new brand of cooling now? We have a theory about that.

Not long ago, a number of EVGA 10-series GPU owners were reporting abnormally (and in some cases, dangerously) high VRM temperatures and the issue seemed to affect the entire gamut of ACX 3.0-cooled SKUs. ...

.... this could have been the final nail in the ACX cooling coffin (this wasn’t the first ACX-related issue we’ve seen in the last few years). We see the new iCX -branded graphics cards as a vehicle to not only give EVGA the opportunity to improve its graphics cooling from a design standpoint but also to deviate from a seemingly-tarnished namesake of ACX cooling.

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Will wait to see how the new iCX coolers work out but until then, can not, will not recommend the SC series with the ACX coolers. Been there, done that, paid the price.

thing is you want the best clocked out of the box card for the price

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No I don't. I want the best card after I get done over clocking it, and with the ability to withstand the loads w/ failing or going up in smoke. If you are only looking at what you get "outta the box", you should look at the 480.

not to say there perfect but when you get one that's not you will be glad then you choose a evga when you need to return it to them

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been there, done that ... want the time spent on 20 support calls over 18 months of my life back.

+YoshiTheGamer I suggest that you wait 30 hours before making your purchase because the GTX 1080 Ti is planned to be announced at that time (http://www.nvidia.com/page/home.html). There is a possibility that it could put a small amount of downward pressure on the prices other Nvidia GPUs, including the 1060. Personally I like the support and the 90 step up program offered by EVGA, but I recommend that you opt for the SSC model (bookmarked at bottom of page). This opinion is based on my own independent thinking and not on the opinions of the rest of the community that responded to your message thread.

Asus: Has a reference cooler and not ideal for your circumstance.

Gigabyte: I've personally had two poor experiences with RMA'ing GPU's to them, on behalf of friends.

EVGA: I personally own this exact card. And while I'm a fan of it, I'd recommend that you opt for the two fan SSC version, and purchase it from NewEgg and not Amazon; Amazon is out of stock off the SSC except from 3rd parties selling on the site with inflated prices.

EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB SSC GAMING (06G-P4-6267-KR)
$259.99 ($249.99 after $10.00 rebate card) ($4.99 Shipping)
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487275

Please read the above post which compares the MSI 480 / 1060 using Techpowerups published data.

Since the 2xx series, AMD has very aggressively overclocked their cards "in the box". As a result they usually wind up having much less overclocking headroom (6-8% whereas nVidia has 18% - 31%). Boost 3 has however curtailed that advantage a bit. For those that seek the highest performing card "in the box", AMD will sometimes have better performance.... The 1060 maintains a slight lead outta the box over the 480 based upon TPus numbers but that lead widens substantially whge both cards are overclocked.

Before you buy anything, PLEASE TELL US YOUR PC SPECIFICATION. For example, if you are using AMD, buy R480, if you are using intel, buy 1060 6gb. The internal firmware is made so that the components work better on familiar components. As value/performance, r480 is better. But, knowing that many game developers use gimmiks to lower AMD GPU performance, I would recommend you to go with NVIDIA. First, post us your complete PC specification. DON'T BUY ANYTHING JUDGING BY SOME BENCHMARK TESTS.

Give me your budget. I3 is a bad option, if you intend to game.

Oh wow, I'm glad that +KenoKereStyle asked you the question. I personally didn't realize that this was a new build that you're planning.

You might be better off listing your budget, region where you live (e.g. US), resolution? 2 or 3 games that you plan play, etc. Do you already have a working computer? If so, maybe it's worth you listing it's full specs including the power supply's manufacturer and model number. By the way, the i3-7100 and B250 are the Kabylake replacements for the CPU and chipset that you stated above. Also, a Pentium G4560 might be a better fit, if the saved $55 allows you to upgrade another component of your build. A lot depends on your budget and what you're trying to accomplish.

There is no data to support this. THG actually did an article on how AMD CPUs provide better support for SLI than CF.

Our big revelation is that AMD’s FX-8350 performs 5% better in SLI than it does in CrossFire. When all else is made equal, AMD’s current flagship host processor really does favor Nvidia's graphics technology. Whoops.

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