Just got GTX 1080 FTW VS GTX 1080 Ti.

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i did not expect GTX 1080 Ti would release this week and i ordered FTW ,3 days ago and it arrived today. i know many tech youtuber hasn't been doing hands on review since they don't have a copy yet (3/1/2017). And i read some forum here like last year about 980 vs 980 ti.

as i have remember one of the expert here answer the question said that you must have a good CPU and Mobo to avoid "Bottleneck" on your (our) Pc when getting a Ti. now my question is

should i return it and get GTX 1080 Ti?

is it worth it to get 1080 Ti?

will my Mobo and CPU can handle this card?
(Gigabyte X79 UP4 , i7 4280K 3.7ghz (not yet overclock) 16 GB DDR3 Ram and using H60 Liquid Cooler)

my Power Supply is 650W 80 PLus Gold ATNG

any advice or tips should i know before getting 1080 Ti?
i am also going to wait for the reviews
 
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For the same price at launch you can get a card that statistically outperforms the Titan x, and surpasses the 1080 itself by 35%. Future proofing for technically the same price? Why would you not.
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The 1080, by itself, is capable of fantastic performance. Most games are no issue with this card. Unless you do some seriously computer-stomping gaming with AAA+ graphics, all day long, I would personally say no. However, its completely your own personal opinion if you want to get the Ti version. It will be more powerful, definitely, and not too many steps away from the fabled Titan. It's definitely future-proof, so it won't hurt anything but your wallet. :p
 
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what resolution are you gaming at? If 4K the gtx 1080ti would best if money is not an issue. I run 2 gtx 1080s in sli for 2160P. Even running two cards I can't max all games and running one, things are even worse. Point being if you are gaming at 1440P-2160P max setting or close with heavy filtering and AA (say 16x by 8x) the gtx 1080Ti would be worth it to me, especially if it is 2160P. if you gaming at 1080P, unless your @144hz with max settings and max filtering aa (16x by 8x to 16x by 16x), a gtx 1080Ti is probably overkill.
 
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currently 1080p 60hz, next year i will try to get a ROG Monitor 1440 144hz
 
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I'd just stick with the 1080 if it were me. You're saying you're going to game at 1080p @ 60hz for at least the next year and the 1080 is already way overkill for that. You don't really do yourself any favors by getting an even more expensive card at this point.

I guess if I were you I would consider that by the time you upgrade your monitor there will likely be a newer gen of gpus that will be even better than the 1080ti at a better price point.

I have a 980ti currently and am considering getting the 1080ti based on reviewed performance (once available), but I'm already on a 1440p @ 144hz monitor. For me, I have immediate headroom for much better fps than I'm getting with the 980ti.

 
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should i get Founders Edition or wait for other models?
the FE look so sick tbh. i heard on 1080 FE got heat issues and slow base clock compare to other models. :D.
 
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true every year or so their will be new GPU that will be better than Ti , as always.
 
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That's exactly my delimma. The Titan x has founders edition cooling structure and I don't hear much complaint about it. The 1080ti has the exact same structure minus a gig of memory banks and something else I forgot.

If the Titan x doesn't have issues on a reference base, I'd go out on a limb to state that the 1080ti may perform the same.

I read that it has improved vapor chambers for the air cooling pipes, so I'm in a hit of a bind myself deciding. I'm probably gonna get the fe since they said it's going to be priced on par with the aftermarket cards and strip the cooler off for an aftermarket.

Then again, I'm not sure because I want an Asus version...This is a hard decision.
 
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Unless you're running at 4k, 3440x1440 @100Hz, or 2560x1440 @144Hz, the 1080 will blow away everything. If you are running at those listed resolutions you will have to compromise some settings to get the fps you want but it should still not be a problem.

I would only recommend a 1080 Ti if you are playing at at least 4k. I am planning on getting a Ti but I play at 3440x1440 @100Hz and a few games just don't push like I want them to, Battlefield 1 mostly. (I have to play that at 1080p 21:9 technically to get 100FPS)
 
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lol "only" 35% faster. For me that should equate to 20-30fps increase which is exactly what I need in BF1. But like I said unless you are running on a high-end monitor you don't need a 1080 Ti over a 1080.
 
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You guys are telling him not to get a card that performs 35% better and outperforms a $1200 card for the same price as his current card. Maybe I'm missing something but I feel like someone's not thinking here.

That alone could motivate him to move to a higher resolution. I have a 4k TV I use my 1080 on and choose to do 1080p because I don't really care and it's faster. If I can get the same frames at 4k with a ti why not especially if I return for full price and get the new one for a similar price (mine was 635)
 
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Because unless he's running a certain resolution/refresh rate it will be entirely wasted power, plus the new card is not out yet and the only one available will be the founder's edition, which is known to pretty much suck unless you put a custom cooling block on it and overclock it yourself.

You choose to waste your money playing at 1080p with a 1080, you're barely using your GPU's potential, a 1070 would do the same for $200 less for you, you chose to waste $200, he doesn't have to choose to waste another $100. Maybe you like throwing money away most people don't.

Basically unless you're playing at 4k or a $1000 2k monitor you don't really need a 1080 Ti.
 
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Ok so bring up those considerations instead of a full "you don't need" it shutdown. Yeah the 1080 is overkill and so is the Titan. People still buy them and use them.

Futureproofing is a very valid selling point in why he should get it.

So what you're in effect telling him is "don't get the better card that's the same price as yours"

I'm personally waiting until an aftermarket ti is released.
 
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Almost everyone I know with a Titan or 1080 is playing AT LEAST at 2k, most if not all are playing at 4k. Again its entirely wasted power/money getting a 1080 Ti under a certain resolution. At 2k 60Hz a 1080 is overkill when a cheaper 1070 will do the same. Getting an even more powerful card is completely unnecessary under most circumstances. Very few people are in a situation that actually warrant getting something with that much power, I agree future proofing is good, but for now and the foreseeable future, a single 1080 meets most needs in most circumstances. Unless the guy is like me with a $6,000 setup, including a $1,200 monitor, A 1080 should suit him fine, even if he does unless he's also like me and wants the absolute best quality, a 1080 will still be fine. 4k is the exception. If you want 4k you NEED a 1080 Ti.
 
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Same price as current 1080 for 35% more power
All at the expense of waiting a little longer.
Could also possibly push motivation to up to 2k or 4k, and most certainly leaves options to do so.

I rest my case and no longer will comment.

 
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Just go for another 1080 now...... BF1 runs great on SLI!!

 
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That's not what I heard... In fact last I heard BF1 runs worse in SLI than a single card.
I have enough headaches with Ultrawide support in games, I don't need to add SLI support to that list, I'd rather play games on day 1 and play them without having to disable a card. For what I want the 1080 Ti will be PERFECT.
 
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Future proofing is a terrible way to put it. You can be future compatible...as in...several years from now the card you purchase will still run games reasonably. But say future proof to someone who doesn't understand and you're implying (in their eyes) that they're going to get the same performance out of it for the next 5 years when really newer games will likely run at lower settings on that card. Common sense has a lot to do with this stuff, but newer people to PC hardware/gaming may not understand it.

Going back to the should he or shouldn't he ordeal...I stand by my original opinion that he's better off waiting. If he was getting a new monitor soon that'd be one thing, but spending more money that won't benefit your gaming experience is kind of ridiculous. If he does indeed upgrade in one year, there will surely be another generation of GPUs that offer better performance than the 1080ti does now.

Or...if he really wants to get a 1080ti, he should wait until EVGA releases their own custom cards. As long as he registers the 1080 he has now, he has 3 months to opt into their "upgrade" program and pay the difference. Just seems ridiculous to return a card that is already overkill for a reference 1080ti that is going to play second fiddle to any custom ones that come out in the near future.

On an unrelated note, you have a really nice rig The_Staplergun!
 
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