Speed difference between i3-7100 vs Pentium 4560 vs Pentium 4620

johnnierbsr · Mar 2, 2017

I current have 4 1/2 yr old AMD A10-5700 (3.4, turbo 4.0)w/Radeon HD 7660D. Would any or the above cpu's running (HD630, HP630 and HD610) be a noticeable improvement that can been seen.
i3-7100 (3.9), Pentium G4620 (3.7, Pentium G4560 (3.5). Would mind speeding a little to get noticeable performance increase. Thx

Chugalug_ · Mar 2, 2017

The performance difference is that the Pentiums have lower clocks than the i3, the G4560 is the best value hands down, the other two aren't worth the money comparatively.
You can run it with anything up to a 1060 6GB without issue.
What are your full specs atm and what is your budget?

johnnierbsr · Mar 2, 2017

Chugalug_ :

johnnierbsr · Mar 2, 2017

Is the G4560 noticeably faster that my old AMD A10-5700 w/Radeon HD 7660D integrated,. I believe the G4560 come with HD610 integrated? Or better to go with G4620 at 3.7 with HD630 integrated?

Trying to upgrade old computer, but wifey needs to see an improvement. Also thinking abut replacing mobo (lacks Uefi) and maybe get B250M (any suggestions here>), as well as 450-watt Bronze psu (Evga or corsair) and DDR4-2400 memory.

I'll be checking out within 6 months, so I want my old desktop to get modernized (especially 4 1/2 yrs old (no name) psu) Thanks for any info and your wisdom. Of course, I'd like to try a keep it at or below $300, if possible. Thanks again.

Corwin65 · Mar 2, 2017

As volatile as changes are right now, wait until you are ready to purchase and ask the question again.

Keep in mind that the purpose of the build is very important (gaming, editing, streaming etc.)

Chugalug_ · Mar 2, 2017

johnnierbsr :

Yes it would be a great upgrade, although tbh I would just get a fresh rig altogether, all your components are quite dated.
Save up $500 and PM me or reignite this thread when you're ready to buy, 6 months is a very long time, and you well end up waiting for the 11 series of Nvidia GPUs or picking up a 10 series cheap.

johnnierbsr · Mar 2, 2017

Corwin65 :

Chugalug_ :

johnnierbsr · Mar 2, 2017

When I indicated I would probably be checking out - I met it literally. I currently undergoing liver cancer therapies. I have well advanced cirrhosis that granted the privilege of higher risk for cancer. Well - got them. Treatment is not curative just trying to slow down , maybe arrest the cancer tumors, all 11 (at last count). Dr cnan only "maybe" extends #$ of days to months/ Time will tell.

Sorry to be a downer. About my favorites thing is my computer and searching the net. This upgrade would mainly to update computer (esp psu) so I thought I might as well upgrade mobo, cpu, ram, psu. AND I, or wife, can add GTX 1050 Ti later if desired. I thing the integrated HD 630 might be sufficient. We'll try it as see.

The mains time we spend on it is playing installed BEJEWELED 3 and 2, and Solsuite Solitare. Don't know is if 1050 Ti is needed at this time. HOPEFULLY, I get the components with some time to player with them. I would LOVE to speed things up from the A10-5700 enough to notice it. This should future-proof the desktop for 4-5 more yrs, Thanks for your assistance.

Chugalug_ · Mar 2, 2017

Christ that sucks.
The HD 630 isn't going to be enough for gaming, you'll want at least a 1050 for esports titles and optimally ssomething like an RX 480 or 1060 for graphically intensive stuff which I should be able to fit in with $500.

johnnierbsr · Mar 3, 2017

How does look -any suggestions (worried about gpu slot on mobo being able to handle 9-10" gpu.

#1 Core i3-7100 3.9GHz - $116.88 ------ OPTION #2 Pentium G4620 3.7GHz - $92.88 ------ OPTION #3 Pentium G4560 3.5GHz - $59.99

ASRock B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 mobo - $77.98 OPTION #2 ASRock H270M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 - $88.98

Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 - $79.99 OPTION #2 Team Dark 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 - $64.99

Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Mod ATX - $41.99 OPTION #2 Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Semi-Mod - $32.99

SUB-TOTAL $316.84

If needed - ARCTIC Alpine 11 Plus Fluid Dynamic Bearing If cpu coloer is needed - 12.39
CPU Cooler (74 CFM - 23 dba) - $12.39

GRAND TOTAL - $329.23 GRAND TOTAL-Option 2 -

Zotac ZT-P10500A-10L - $109.99 OPTION #2 PowerColor Radeon RX 460 2GB - $73.98 OPTION #3 MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti -$139.99
Red Dragon 4GB

BUDGET estimate - $300.00 or thereabouts

WHAT'S MY BEST PATH (something as fast as possible but withi budget in the neigborhood. If IO don't get gpu now, I'll never will know what I missed..

All assistance is very much appreciated. I'd like to take full advantage of any pkg offered. AGAIN Many Thanks to all.

schaft · Mar 3, 2017

Oh my, I hope for the best for your therapy.

Can I know more about your old pc? especially its RAM(how big and how many sticks are there), psu (what brand and how many Watt), and motherboard (brand and type).

Your old cpu has 4 core/thread. It should be suffice in term of cpu power. If you really want a real upgrade, an SSD will boost up your total performance. GPU will help but since you only playing bejeweld and solitaire, there should not be the issue.

For me SSD is a must. Ever since cpu has 4 core, the HDD has been the one that dragged all pc performance until SSD came to economical value. My old amd phenom II X4-B55 (4 core also) was boost with an SSD and still using it now for my office use. If you are using window 7 or above, using SSD will make the start up under 10 seconds (counted after bios load finish).

Since you are using only those game, a 120Gb or 240Gb SSD should be enough.

$45 Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m34NnQ/sandisk-ssd-plus-120gb-25-solid-state-drive-sdssda-120g-g26

$76 ADATA Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7YQRsY/a-data-ultimate-su800-256gb-25-solid-state-drive-asu800ss-256gt-c

You will have to reinstall the window onto the SSD tough.

Further optimization will require the information I have asked above.

Chugalug_ · Mar 3, 2017

This is what I would go with, the best value for money, costs a little more.
No way you're going to get a full PC going with such a low budget.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($71.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.90 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.33 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 480 4GB Red Dragon Video Card ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3 (Windowless) MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $430.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-03 07:58 EST-0500

johnnierbsr · Mar 3, 2017

schaft :

Oh my, I hope for the best for your therapy.

Can I know more about your old pc? especially its RAM(how big and how many sticks are there), psu (what brand and how many Watt), and motherboard (brand and type).

Your old cpu has 4 core/thread. It should be suffice in term of cpu power. If you really want a real upgrade, an SSD will boost up your total performance. GPU will help but since you only playing bejeweld and solitaire, there should not be the issue.

For me SSD is a must. Ever since cpu has 4 core, the HDD has been the one that dragged all pc performance until SSD came to economical value. My old amd phenom II X4-B55 (4 core also) was boost with an SSD and still using it now for my office use. If you are using window 7 or above, using SSD will make the start up under 10 seconds (counted after bios load finish).

Since you are using only those game, a 120Gb or 240Gb SSD should be enough.

$45 Sandisk SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/m34NnQ/sandisk-ssd-plus-120gb-25-solid-state-drive-sdssda-120g-g26

$76 ADATA Ultimate SU800 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7YQRsY/a-data-ultimate-su800-256gb-25-solid-state-drive-asu800ss-256gt-c

You will have to reinstall the window onto the SSD tough.

Further optimization will require the information I have asked above.

johnnierbsr · Mar 3, 2017

My old HP p7-1240 has MSI MS-7778 (Jasmine) mobo (NO UEFI and PCI-Ex16 (Gen 2.0)
4-ram memory slots (came with 10-GB (2x4GB) and (1x2GB) -3 sticks
PC3-12800 (DDR3-1600)
psu - general (bulk) 300-watt (came with 4 1/2 yr old desktop (Don't trust it for safety reasons-replacing it got me starting and update pc.

Will use from old PC: case, cd/dvd combo driver, 6-mo old ssd (old 1TB hdd is still inside unplugged).. memory card reader and built-in case fan.

After reviewing your information and list, here is latest plan:
CPU Pentium G4620 3.7GHz - $92.88
Mobo Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H micro - $71.89
Memory Avexir Core Series 8GB (1x8GB) DDR4-2400- $39.90
Video Card PowerColor Radeon RX 460 2GB - $73.98
PSU Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze semi-mod - $32.99

GT - $311.64

See any issues, especially bottlenecking. I'd like a balance m, pretty much making out att components. Mainly mainstream stuff, Bejeweled (a lot), Solsuite Solitaire, lots of internet researching, email, Google Earth-Pro, and grandkids 6-7 yrs old play some "lego games". NO GAMING here - could affort the games anyway.

Jump in with any input being appreciated. Came close to $300.00 budget.

By the way, should I get a cpu cooler? I have one of old A10-5700 (I was even aware of it until recently.

johnnierbsr · Mar 3, 2017

Trouble is, I like this toaster. I had to do a lot of research to locate Win-7 (time was crossing over to W-8, which I did NOT want. But I got exactly was I wanted. I would just like to upgrade a few component for when I'm gone, wife won't have to worry about psu. And trying to future-proof some at the same time, for around $300 + or -.

Chugalug_ · Mar 3, 2017

johnnierbsr :

My old HP p7-1240 has MSI MS-7778 (Jasmine) mobo (NO UEFI and PCI-Ex16 (Gen 2.0)
4-ram memory slots (came with 10-GB (2x4GB) and (1x2GB) -3 sticks
PC3-12800 (DDR3-1600)
psu - general (bulk) 300-watt (came with 4 1/2 yr old desktop (Don't trust it for safety reasons-replacing it got me starting and update pc.

Will use from old PC: case, cd/dvd combo driver, 6-mo old ssd (old 1TB hdd is still inside unplugged).. memory card reader and built-in case fan.

After reviewing your information and list, here is latest plan:
CPU Pentium G4620 3.7GHz - $92.88
Mobo Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H micro - $71.89
Memory Avexir Core Series 8GB (1x8GB) DDR4-2400- $39.90
Video Card PowerColor Radeon RX 460 2GB - $73.98
PSU Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze semi-mod - $32.99

GT - $311.64

See any issues, especially bottlenecking. I'd like a balance m, pretty much making out att components. Mainly mainstream stuff, Bejeweled (a lot), Solsuite Solitaire, lots of internet researching, email, Google Earth-Pro, and grandkids 6-7 yrs old play some "lego games". NO GAMING here - could affort the games anyway.

Jump in with any input being appreciated. Came close to $300.00 budget.

By the way, should I get a cpu cooler? I have one of old A10-5700 (I was even aware of it until recently.

No, the included stock cooler is plenty.
Get the G4560, the G4620 only offers slightly higher clock speeds, little to no difference and saves you $30.
I'll post an improved list for you.

Chugalug_ · Mar 3, 2017

EVGA don't make AMD graphics cards, and for $20 more the 1050 is a better deal for several reasons. Runs cooler and faster than the 460, and is an EVGA card, meaning you'll have fantastic support and assistance if needed later down the line, build quality is also another plus compared to some of the dodgy support from companies like Power Color who aren't very reliable.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($71.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($39.90 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 2GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $313.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-03 22:46 EST-0500

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