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16 Or 32gb RAM for Ryzen 1700x
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MrLulle02 :
Ok, but 32Gb, will that work for both r7 1700x or intel 5820k
AND, what will happend if premier pro uses the storage drive?
Thank you for answering
Hello,
32gb is likely fine for most, i work in high bitrate RAW alot and file sizes are enourmous compared to 4k footage from something like a GH4 or any commercial drone etc. 225mb for every second of footage adds up...
Personally, I wish I had 64GB for Adobe Premiere. I had 16GB for the better part of a year and it constantly went to the storage drive when working projects. Now I have 32GB and it does that "Much" less. Editing mostly 1080P RAW from an Atomos Ninja SSD recorder, file sizes are in the few GB range each so the math is easy, the more RAM the better.
Tim
Tim
MrLulle02 :
Ok, but 32Gb, will that work for both r7 1700x or intel 5820k
AND, what will happend if premier pro uses the storage drive?
Thank you for answering
Hello,
32gb is likely fine for most, i work in high bitrate RAW alot and file sizes are enourmous compared to 4k footage from something like a GH4 or any commercial drone etc. 225mb for every second of footage adds up quick. But i digress, what happens when Premire Pro is forced to use the disk? Well, even with fast SSD storage when you run out of system memory your video runs the chance of stuttering and not being smooth while playing back, and applying effects and transitions can take much longer etc. If all the video you are working on resides in system memory the whole process of editing is much smoother and faster. Also you may have other programs open as well, such as Photoshop, a web browser etc and you might also be compiling footage into a finished product in the background as you work on edits. Long story short, when editing video, more ram is always better but that being said 32gb as i said earlier is likely fine for most people. My needs for an enthusiast are the exception because of the specific formats i work in.
As to working with a 5820k, sure thing, that is the chip i use in my workstation. I have no experience with the new AMD chips as they are brand new and personally i havent read a ton about them, but from what i have read they seem like boiled down server/workstation chips and the few benchmarks i have seen showed them doing very well with workstation apps, but i hadent seen any benchmarks pertaining to creative cloud apps yet? Best advice is to get online and read read read l, especially considering how new to market they are.
Hope this helps,
Tim
timbo80 :
MrLulle02 :
Ok, but 32Gb, will that work for both r7 1700x or intel 5820k
AND, what will happend if premier pro uses the storage drive?
Thank you for answering
Hello,
32gb is likely fine for most, i work in high bitrate RAW alot and file sizes are enourmous compared to 4k footage from something like a GH4 or any commercial drone etc. 225mb for every second of footage adds up quick. But i digress, what happens when Premire Pro is forced to use the disk? Well, even with fast SSD storage when you run out of system memory your video runs the chance of stuttering and not being smooth while playing back, and applying effects and transitions can take much longer etc. If all the video you are working on resides in system memory the whole process of editing is much smoother and faster. Also you may have other programs open as well, such as Photoshop, a web browser etc and you might also be compiling footage into a finished product in the background as you work on edits. Long story short, when editing video, more ram is always better but that being said 32gb as i said earlier is likely fine for most people. My needs for an enthusiast are the exception because of the specific formats i work in.
As to working with a 5820k, sure thing, that is the chip i use in my workstation. I have no experience with the new AMD chips as they are brand new and personally i havent read a ton about them, but from what i have read they seem like boiled down server/workstation chips and the few benchmarks i have seen showed them doing very well with workstation apps, but i hadent seen any benchmarks pertaining to creative cloud apps yet? Best advice is to get online and read read read l, especially considering how new to market they are.
Hope this helps,
Tim
Okay i get it now
Thank you for taking your time and explain.Yes I would suggest 32GB is more suited to your needs. Ryzen tends to work best with single rank, 2 DIMM RAM however there is no such thing as this for 32GB.
2x16 single rank is not possible as singe rank only exists on up to 8GB sticks.
4x8 single rank is possible, however that is 4 DIMMs, not 2.
So the next question is, which is going to give you the LEAST penalty, dual-rank or 4 DIMMs?
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/11170/AMD%20Ryzen%207%20Press%20Deck-18_575px.jpg
Based on this graphic, 2 DIMM dual-rank suffers the least penalty compared to 4 DIMM single rank. This brings to the conclusion that 2x16 GB is the best solution for you.
Next choice is what speed and latency do you want and do you want RGB?
The most sought after for Ryzen is 3200mhz with a cas latency of 14-14-14-34. Because 2x16 is dual ranked, it will show 14-14-14-34-2N.
So that narrows it down to these choices in the G.Skill range.
https://www.gskill.com/en/finder?cat=31&series=0&prop_4=14-14-14-34-2N&prop_14=DDR4&prop_2=32GB+%2816GBx2%29&prop_3=3200MHz
In the QVL they will show as being optimized for intel Z270 boards, however with the latest BIOS update, have become fully compatible with Ryzen now.
2x16 single rank is not possible as singe rank only exists on up to 8GB sticks.
4x8 single rank is possible, however that is 4 DIMMs, not 2.
So the next question is, which is going to give you the LEAST penalty, dual-rank or 4 DIMMs?
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/11170/AMD%20Ryzen%207%20Press%20Deck-18_575px.jpg
Based on this graphic, 2 DIMM dual-rank suffers the least penalty compared to 4 DIMM single rank. This brings to the conclusion that 2x16 GB is the best solution for you.
Next choice is what speed and latency do you want and do you want RGB?
The most sought after for Ryzen is 3200mhz with a cas latency of 14-14-14-34. Because 2x16 is dual ranked, it will show 14-14-14-34-2N.
So that narrows it down to these choices in the G.Skill range.
https://www.gskill.com/en/finder?cat=31&series=0&prop_4=14-14-14-34-2N&prop_14=DDR4&prop_2=32GB+%2816GBx2%29&prop_3=3200MHz
In the QVL they will show as being optimized for intel Z270 boards, however with the latest BIOS update, have become fully compatible with Ryzen now.
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