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carlos v, substantiate your claim by some actual video tests, not subjective standpoint that tilts slightly towards amd, it seems to me, because you're equating the two, while there is no comparison.
(btw. i did a lot of such testing back in the day, so who's stopping you? but atm HEVC doesn't really interest me, i don't need it, btu you go right ahead and prove me and MSU lab wrong!)

if you've read the link, it's about MSU lab test not just intel hype.

so there, you need to show x265 beats intel, ie unlike MSU tests showed. use whatever preset you wish, but if you use slowest x265 preset ("x265 -placebo" it's called), u should also use slowest intel options.

offcourse, perhaps intel just payed to MSU lab to be a winner, but there...
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Intel Quick Sync is a media encoder built into most of Intels HD graphics chips. I believe it also uses the integrated graphics to assist quick syncs encoding aswell. GPU accelerated renders are a LOT faster than CPU rendering.

I hope this helps! :)
 
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Just remember YOU GOTA use the IGPU to enable quick sync. So if your using a discrete GPU, you'l have to figure out a way to enable the IGPU.

Unless your discrete GPU also has a media encoder, then just use that.
 
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QuickSync is the name that Intel gives to it's hardware encoder integrated with some Intel CPUs
AMD also have a hardware encoder on some of it's CPUs

Both won't give you the quality of a CPU "Only" encoding possibilities!
Both QickSync and AMD Open Advanced Media Framework (AMF) that replaces the older AMD VCE just encodes into H264 and H265 codec, depending of the model, and have different possibilities for bitrate and so on.

Intel QuickSync is fast and AMD AMF can also be as fast, you really have to compare, because there's lot more going on todays chips, The price, features etc.

To use the hardware encoder your software, video editor etc has to support it, there's a project on GitHub to make AMD AMF available in pretty much all the apps that export to .avi package, the project is here: https://github.com/jackun/TestAMFVFW
It's possible that a similar project exist to Intel QuickSync but I don't know.
 
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Sory, but NO, of course Intel will marketing it as the best thing after sliced bread, but it's technical impossible to beat CPU quality encoding for the simple fact that Hardware Encoding - both Intel QuickSync and AMD AMF have limited fixed floating point encoding, you can always make a Software encoder with higher quality, I am not saying this encoders are awful quality, but it can never beat the quality of CPU only, there's another topic for video encoders that is OpenCl:
- OpenCl uses GPU processor for some calculations, a good OpenCl can work together with CPU, CPU/OpenCl encoders are completely different than Intel QuickSync and AMD AMF, I am just underlining this because there's lot of confusion about this fact.

Now one thing is certain, hardware encoders like Intel QuickSync and AMD AMF are great for fast transcoding, live previews on Video Editor, Upload videos to Youtube, Video Conference Encoding, Desktop Mirroring and Recording and so on, because it will use very low power, will make your CPU / GPU free for other tasks,..

 
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carlos v, substantiate your claim by some actual video tests, not subjective standpoint that tilts slightly towards amd, it seems to me, because you're equating the two, while there is no comparison.
(btw. i did a lot of such testing back in the day, so who's stopping you? but atm HEVC doesn't really interest me, i don't need it, btu you go right ahead and prove me and MSU lab wrong!)

if you've read the link, it's about MSU lab test not just intel hype.

so there, you need to show x265 beats intel, ie unlike MSU tests showed. use whatever preset you wish, but if you use slowest x265 preset ("x265 -placebo" it's called), u should also use slowest intel options.

offcourse, perhaps intel just payed to MSU lab to be a winner, but there you go, you need to prove that to be the case.
and you can't really prove the topic question: amd has nothing like quick sync. ie the point of this thread.

thanks!

ps/ read this too
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3113457/components-processors/intels-kaby-lake-chip-is-a-must-have-for-4k-video-fiends.html
 
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