nVidia GPU for Dell S2716DG, system CPU Okay?

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clh4254

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I know the question has been asked before, but I just want to confirm my understanding, and also verify if my system specs are okay or going to cause me disappointment.

Best Buy has the Dell S2716DG monitor on sale for $479 this week (through tomorrow, 3/4/17, if you still want to grab one), so I finally had to snap it up. Even with sales tax, that's a heck of a price.

So now I need to upgrade my video card. I understand from the searching and reading I've done that I need a 1070, or ideally a 1080 for 1440p 144 Hz. Correct?

Although I also see that nVidia just announced the 1080 ti, which is supposed to be available just next week. I'm not in that big of a hurry so I should probably wait until reviews of this come out and see if I want to spend the money on it. But I also see they announced a $100 price drop of the original 1080, so that will be very tempting too. Thoughts?

Also, my system specs are as follows: CPU is a Core i7-3770k, 16 GB RAM, I have a 1000 watt PS already with necessary power plugs (former card is a GTX 660 Ti). Are there any concerns that my CPU isn't up to the 1440p, 144hz task? I know my CPU was top of the line when I built the computer (short of going to Xeon or something like that), but it's a few years old now. Don't know if it still holds up. I can't afford to upgrade the whole computer right now after buying both the monitor and a new GPU. Though if there's a CPU concern I might wait 6 months and be able to afford it and upgrade the system and the GPU then.

Thank you!
 
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I dont think you could get 144 fps on graphic intensive games from a 1080 (at least i dont get it at 3440x1440) and you would need to use ¿very? reduced settings for a 1070.



If you want to play 1440x144 Hz on future games at max wait for the 1080ti.



That would deppend on the games, but thats an usual problem on CPU intensive games, yes, you will be CPU bound, on some titles im close to be CPU bound on a 6600k at 4.8Ghz.
 
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Thank you for the response. I guess I'll provide a bit of clarification.

I just earlier today read a bunch of posts on this forum that said a 1070 was good for 1440p and a 1080 would be even better. What did I miss in reading those? Or is it the 144 hz/fps piece? I guess I'm not necessarily expecting a full 144 hz, just decent performance. And I don't necessarily expect to run every game on highest quality settings, just decent settings so I'm not disappointed.

I guess I'll also ask then, what would it take to get 1440p at a full 144 fps? There isn't anything higher than a 1080 (in the NVidia line) is there? I guess there Titan but I also read they're actually no faster than the 1080? Or would it have to go SLI, in which case what cards in SLI would be recommended?

I'll rephrase the question a bit about CPU bottlenecking. You make it sound like there will be CPU bottlenecking with any CPU. If that's the case, then more specifically, how will my few year old 3770k compare to a newer 6700 or 7700 CPU? Is it going to be only mildly worse, or significantly worse? Or I guess another way to ask, am I totally wasting a 1070 or 1080 with my CPU? Am I going to be able to play most modern games without disappointment? Or should I just not even consider a 1070/1080/1080ti without upgrading my CPU?
 
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It's true, you could get good framerates at 1440p with a 1070, but depending on the games you will get 60-80, far, far away from the monitor refresh rate (144Hz)

Currently outside SLIs or maybe the new 1080ti
- You could have good framerates at 1440p
- You could play at 144Hz at 1080p
- You could play at 144Hz at 1440p with reduced setting or less demanding games
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LEDs dont have the refresh issue of the old CRTs, that is not an issue. The advantage of the 144Hz comes if you could supply the monitor with enought frames.
To get the improvement of 144Hz you would need 100+ fps.
If you dont want that kind of performance just aim for a 75Hz monitor.



A 1440p 144Hz monitor will cost a lot of money, i dont understand why you want to use inferior image quality when you could get a 1080p 144Hz or a 1440p 60-75Hz for a lot less money and better settings.



To full 1440p/144Hz an SLI, 1070s, or even 1080s after the price drop.



On very graphic demanding titles, no you will get maybe a slightly lower improvement that with a more powerfull cpu but a nice improvement after all.

On less demanding and cpu bound games, probably you are wasting money.

As personal choice i would upgarde the Gpu and in the future upgrade the Cpu.
 
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clh4254

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Thanks much! That helps understand. Yes, I think I'll probably go for a 1080 after the price drop (MAYBE a 1080ti if they turn out to be significantly better and are the same price as the 1080 was originally). Down the road upgrade the CPU. Then after that maybe I'll think about an SLI to truly get the full performance. I can't actually afford that all right now, I was just curious where I was standing, or what it would really take to max out the 1440p 144hz.


I will say, no, I'm not expecting a full 144hz. I got a 1440p monitor as much for my Windows Desktop working space as for gaming, maybe even more so. I wanted to go to a 27" monitor, but I didn't just want 1080p at 27". If I'm going to 27", I want extra resolution for extra Desktop working space.

Running games at higher resolution is almost more of a bonus than the real reason I bought the monitor. And I'm willing to lower settings on games if I need to.

I got 144hz mainly because I have the nVidia 3D Vision kit and still wanted to be able to do 3D with the new 27" monitor. The monitor I'm replacing is a Samsung 2233RZ 120hz monitor that only runs 1680x1050. That will now become my second monitor. (No, I don't plan to run games on dual monitor.)

I wasn't going to spend $700 or $800 on a 1440p 144Hz monitor as I know some of them are priced at, but when Best Buy had the Dell on sale for $479 last week ($508 after sales tax, still a great deal), I had to grab it. (Yes, I know the whole thing about IPS vs. TN panels, but I've seen enough threads from people who are happy with the Dell that I decided to go with that.)

Thanks again!
 
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