worth upgrading to i7 7700 from i5 3450 (GAMING)

Bhaumik_777 · Mar 3, 2017

so i am thinking about upgrading the cpu with motherboard and ram if its worth it FOR GAMING purpose only

current cpu i5 3450
thinking of i7 7700

gfx. gtx 1060 6gb
12gb ram
500W CM thunderbird psu

so
1) is it worth upgrading for gaming purpose. will it really make difference
2) if yes then should i go for 7700 or 7700k (air cooling only)
3) if yes my psu is enough for it?

ty in advance

Bhaumik_777 · Mar 3, 2017

MERGED QUESTION
Question from Bhaumik_777 : "i7 7700 vs i7 7700k for gaming with gtx 1060"

will i7 7700 k vs non k make any difference in gaming with gtx 1060 6gb graphic card

is K worth it or should i go with non K?

Tanoxil · Mar 3, 2017

You will see a small difference in your minimum frame rates that's about it. I don't think it's worth it wait a little bit for the ryzen 6 cores/12 threads or the 4 cores/8 threads they will be great for gaming or even the intel cannonlake CPUs that will probably release next year.

rolli59 · Mar 3, 2017

You would see very little difference between the K and none K. Certainly they would play the same games on the same settings.

eno1986 · Mar 3, 2017

Like most already said no, the i7 you would only see improvement in streaming/playing games or editing.

Bhaumik_777 · Mar 4, 2017

but in india heat is very high
so amd processor ryzen can have issues of heat
am i right?

by mistake i tooh -1 on that answer sorry..

Tanoxil · Mar 4, 2017

Bhaumik_777 :

No actually the new ryzen CPUs are really energy efficient so there's less heat than the i7s

valeman2012 · Mar 4, 2017

If you just "GAMING" why not just go for Intel i5 7600. (Non K Series Intels CPUs will come with STOCK COOLER)
You save money - The money can buy to get other better components to improve your performance)

If you got no plans to Overclock CPU than you should go for the Intel i5 7600 and a H270 or B250 Motherboard save you big bucks

Simple
If you just to GAME and does NOT Overclock CPU
Get an H270 or B250 Motherboard
Get an Intel i5 7600 (And your set)

_
The Intel i7 7700 is good for editing and render stuff - It can use for games. Is it worth it?

amtseung · Mar 4, 2017

With the way a lot of the initial first wave of reviews is looking, Ryzen 7 isn't the answer for pure gaming. The 5 and 3 series aren't exactly out yet, so we average consumers know nothing about them other than speculation.

The hyperthreading of an i7 can help in some newer games, but on the whole, an i5 seems to be the "good enough" answer. Coming from a Sandy Bridge processor, probably just the IPC improvements alone will make quite a difference. A lot of older titles, or games built on older engines *cough*unreal3*cough* really like pure clock speed (and RAM speed for that matter) over core count, whereas games like BF1, GTA5, and WD2 lean more heavily on core/thread count. In essence, it depends on the games you like to play now, with some consideration for games you'll like to play in the future.

I guess I'll list examples of my own personal experiences to demonstrate what I mean. Planetside 2 (completely CPU-reliant, FPS doesn't change between my GTX1060 and my old HD4870) benefitted from a near doubling of FPS from an i5 4460 to an i7 4790k on the same graphical settings, and a little more than double with the 4790k at 4.7ghz, albeit not a completely stable overclock, at 2560x1600 resolution (<- does that have a name like 1440p or 1080p? 1600p?). Meanwhile, games like Warframe, heavily modded Skyrim (200+ mods including ENB), and Blade and Soul, gained 0-15%.

From what I've seen, 7700k can get really hot. Most reviewers had trouble keeping it cool without a 240mm+ CLC. It's the main reason I decided not to go for a full system overhaul and just threw a 4790k on my existing motherboard, with my existing cooler.

Is your PSU enough for it? You're cutting it close there, especially if you toss in an unlocked i7.

Bhaumik_777 · Mar 7, 2017

Tanoxil :

are u damm sure about it?
bcas many indians complaing abt heating problem in ryzen

Bhaumik_777 · Mar 7, 2017

amtseung :

With the way a lot of the initial first wave of reviews is looking, Ryzen 7 isn't the answer for pure gaming. The 5 and 3 series aren't exactly out yet, so we average consumers know nothing about them other than speculation.

The hyperthreading of an i7 can help in some newer games, but on the whole, an i5 seems to be the "good enough" answer. Coming from a Sandy Bridge processor, probably just the IPC improvements alone will make quite a difference. A lot of older titles, or games built on older engines *cough*unreal3*cough* really like pure clock speed (and RAM speed for that matter) over core count, whereas games like BF1, GTA5, and WD2 lean more heavily on core/thread count. In essence, it depends on the games you like to play now, with some consideration for games you'll like to play in the future.

I guess I'll list examples of my own personal experiences to demonstrate what I mean. Planetside 2 (completely CPU-reliant, FPS doesn't change between my GTX1060 and my old HD4870) benefitted from a near doubling of FPS from an i5 4460 to an i7 4790k on the same graphical settings, and a little more than double with the 4790k at 4.7ghz, albeit not a completely stable overclock, at 2560x1600 resolution (<- does that have a name like 1440p or 1080p? 1600p?). Meanwhile, games like Warframe, heavily modded Skyrim (200+ mods including ENB), and Blade and Soul, gained 0-15%.

From what I've seen, 7700k can get really hot. Most reviewers had trouble keeping it cool without a 240mm+ CLC. It's the main reason I decided not to go for a full system overhaul and just threw a 4790k on my existing motherboard, with my existing cooler.

Is your PSU enough for it? You're cutting it close there, especially if you toss in an unlocked i7.

so 500W psu is not enough for overclocking, are u sure on that one?
also i dont like overclocking either, i may go for non k processor, but the question is to go for i7 7700 or ryzen

point to be noted, there is high heat in summers in india.

TDHBP_Messed · Mar 8, 2017

Probably, probably not.

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