Dell mobo to new case

'' Dell Optiplex 760 SFF and want to improve the PSU and graphics card ' may not be as easy as you think I would use dell forums and your model and see whats said on that you may find you cant do much better then what dell offered on it ?

if the boards form factor is atx standard should fix any atx standard case supporting it [mitx matx atx] but if its a dell BTX proprietary board that's a no go

my disclaimer
some models of store bought computers [dell.hp,acer,ect..] may come with a ''locked or fixed'' / legacy or uefi bios and may not allow you to change certain hardware as a video card.. this is done to protect them from undue warranty claims and refunds .this is not done to hurt you but to protect them. you really need to see if that upgrade has been proven to work in your model first before you invest money in it .. there are a lot of these threads here at toms to look at some models will allow upgrades and some dont.. and a lot of guys here say ya ya ya when is really no no no...it would be sad you spent $200 on a card that won't post after you installed it as most find out. then get told its your psu and you spend more and end up right back where you are now, but its up to you good luck..


you got to know the boards in these computers are not like the ones we use to do custom builds witch are open to upgrading with in the boards compatibly . the bios is custom made for there design and just for the parts they authorize to be used on there computers there only guaranteed to work as is out of the box as you bought it ,..


also these boards do not have to meet atx standards and there pci-e slot power may not do the required 75w needed for most higher end cards and can be limited to say 45 or 60w that is all thats needed with the low end factory oem cards that it may of shipped with
[example]
http://en.community.dell.com/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/3514/1030.DESKTOP.jpg

in the end any upgrade you do is all your own risk . the prebuilt manufactures only guarantees there computers work as sold to you as is out of the box from there factory with what they put on it , not a drop more

there in business to sell you whole ready to go computers , and dont worry about you upgrading them or giving you support to do so . thats not how they make there money they prefer you run to wal-mart and buy there ''better'' latest models

looks like a propritory PSU and PSU connections as well ??

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/p/19992037/20942737#20942737

best do a bit of research on all that for your model

http://en.community.dell.com/search#q=%20Optiplex%20760%20SFF%20&sort=date%20desc&defaultAskForumId=0&pi43799=1

try a custom build as we do , and kinda get what you pay for [and some pride of accomplishment] , and why we don't fool with prebuilts overall . there good for grandma to look up recipes and family pictures [also kids homework ] you buy one at wal mart you use it up for all its worth throw in trash run back to walmart buy there ''better'' latest model and repeat process .. opinion ..


just to add seeing you got kids that custom build may be a nice do together project ,and let them help and gain knowledge

good luck

junkeymonekey,

It's easy to suggest a custom build, but did it occur to you that someone wrestling with a refurbished Optiplex 760 is, by definition, looking for the best possible cost/performance system rather than pursuing the highest possible performance?

There's a very good reason to "fool with prebuilts"; the parts are depreciated and by comparison make those paying the cost new less wise if the performance doesn't have to be state of the the art. In 2013 I bought an open box HP z420 with a Xeon E5-1660 v2 6-core @ 3.7/4.0GHz for $938 and upgraded it for a total cost of $1,600, To build a system matching the performance today would cost more than $2,500 and I can still sell that system for near the total investment- a used E5-1660 v2 is still more than $700-800 alone.

> Not as many of us can afford- or need- to buy a system and throw it in the trash when it can't run Mindless Killing Spree 4 at 70FPS as you imagine.

Anyway, an i5-2400 is a four core @ 3.1 /3.4Ghz is completely adequate for home uses and office uses. The single thread performance of the i5-2400 is 1740, as compared to the current AMD FX-9590 8-core @ 1730. Our office did complex professional work in AutoCad, DataCad 12 3D, Solidworks 2011, Sketchup 3D, Adobe CS4 using a Core2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz and that single thread mark is only 924.

I'll mention something I found a rather satisfying accomplishment too:

Dell Precision 390 (2007) (Original): Intel Core2 Duo E6300 2-core @ 1.86Ghz > 2GB DDR2-667 ECC > Quadro FX550 / 2X WD 320GB ( RAID 1)
[Passmark Rating = 397.1, CPU = 586, 2D= 339, 3D=75, Mem = 585, Disk = 552 > Cost $0

CPU: $38
RAM: $26
GPU: Left over from HP z420 upgrade > $0
WiFi: Left over from upgrade > $0
________________________________

TOTAL System Cost: $64

Dell Precision 390 (2007) (Revised): Xeon X3230 quad-core @ 2.67GHz > 8 GB DDR2 ECC 667 > Firepro V4900 1GB > 2X WD 320GB > Linksys WMP600N WiFi > Dell 24" > 1920 X 1200 > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
[ With Firepro V4900 (1GB)
[ Passmark system rating = 1458, CPU = 3699 / 2D= 431 / 3D=1350 / Mem= 885 / Disk=552]

If you can build a basic: CPU / motherboard / PSU / case platform including the OS with better performance than the Optiplex 990 that for $71, enlighten us.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

you funny ,

''It's easy to suggest a custom build, but did it occur to you that someone wrestling with a refurbished Optiplex 760 is, by definition, looking for the best possible cost/performance system rather than pursuing the highest possible performance? ''

where did I say that ?? don't put words in my mouth never said he had to build a top end gaming rig in any way did I??


and in the end you still got a crap old dated obsolete dell I guess them part you list are used / pull outs from e-bay? and still no guarantee any of it going to work , then what ?? cause I beleave them vid cards you listed don't work in the 760sff ?

like here on this low end lo pro no 760 sff under compatibility ??

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=A7008623

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=A6217619

yet your recommending them and used off e-bay at that ??

ya sounds like money well spent and a good investment and you still got a crap old dated obsolete dell and if it did work the gain is so minimal


anyway its not my money spent so good luck

junkeymonkey,

If a person decides to buy a used system, that is fine with me as I've had good performance, high reliability, and far better resale value proportionally than buying new or building.

I bought a used HP z620 for $270, upgraded it for about +$900 and on Passmark it's still the highest rated z620, a system that new that would have cost $12,000 plus. The person that bought one new and mine are today worth about the same, so which is the smarter approach to achieving that performance?

In eight years of buying and upgrading used systems I've had 100% reliability in heavy professional use, scientific, 3D CAD, analysis, simulation, and rendering. Flight dynamics problems can run on all thread at 100% for three days. The Xeon E5-2690's of 2013 used in the z620 cost $2,050 each new- but $155 each to me, and still have a MTBF of 170,000 hours = 19+ years continuous running. I'll start to worry about the wisdom of my $310 investment if they fail before 2032.

My principal point is that someone obviously willing to spend a time on buying and upgrade a used, obsolete system can look about and have a better used, obsolete system. for a similar low cost with adequate performance to their need and for far lower cost than any new system of comparable performance.

I don't see your parts list for CPU, motherboard, RAM, power supply, case, and OS that will outperform the Optiplex 990 for a cost of $71. And, it's not possible as a new system can never touch a used one in cost /performance terms.

The reasona for the earlier suggestion of buying a Optiplex 990 mini-tower in place of the 760 SFF was: to provide a much high performing CPU, to allow using a full size GPU such as a GTX 760, and include a larger PSU.

Plus, it's satisfying to get these systems to run well for as little cost as possible- it's my favorite computer game. To each his own, but I'd rather spend my time building something real than killing something imaginary.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

CAD / 3D Modeling / Graphic Design: ($1,600)

HP z420 (2015) (Rev 3) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) / 32GB DDR3 -1866 ECC RAM / Quadro K4200 (4GB) / Samsung SM951 M.2 256GB AHCI + Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) + Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card + Logitech z2300 2.1 speakers > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit >> 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)
[ Passmark Rating = 5581 > CPU= 14046 / 2D= 838 / 3D= 4694 / Mem= 2777 / Disk= 11559] [6.12.16]
[Cinebench R15 > CPU = 1031cb / Single Core = 142 cb / OpenGL= 127.39 fps / MP Ratio = 7.24x] 3.2.17

Analysis / Simulation / Rendering: ($1,300)

HP z620 (2012) (Rev 3) 2X Xeon E5-2690 (8-core @ 2.9 / 3.8GHz) / 64GB DDR3-1600 ECC reg) / Quadro K2200 (4GB) + Tesla M2090 (6GB) / HP Z Turbo Drive (256GB) + Samsung 850 Evo 250GB + Seagate Constellation ES.3 (1TB) / Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCIe sound card + Logitech z313 2.1 speakers / 800W / Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > > HP 2711x (27" 1980 X 1080)
[ Passmark System Rating= 5675 / CPU= 22625 / 2D= 815 / 3D = 3580 / Mem = 2522 / Disk = 12640 ] 9.25.16
[ Cinebench R15: CPU = 2209 cb / Single core 130 cb / OpenGL= 119.23 fps / MP Ratio 16.84x] 10.31.16