Windows 7 x64, Kaby Lake, 200-series motherboard

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Here is what I want to buy (new computer):

**Intel 7th Gen Core i7 7700K 91W HD 630 8MB Quad Core CPU
**ASUS ROG STRIX Z270G-GAMING LGA1151 Micro-ATX Motherboard
(a 200 series chipset motherboard)
**Windows 7 x64 to be loaded onto an SSD drive

Is there a driver that will properly run HD630 Graphics on Windows 7 x64, with a 200 series chipset motherboard?

The additional complication is loading Windows 7 onto an SSD drive, on top of the difficulty of working with Kaby Lake.

If not, I will just buy a Skylake microprocessor, and save myself the trouble.

EDIT: I found the ASUS site for driver downloads, specifically for the ROG STRIX Z270E gaming motherboard:

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-Z270E-GAMIN...

[If link doesn't work, search "asus rog strix z270 driver" in Google, pick first item, then "support", "drivers & tools", "windows 7 64bit", "VGA"]

There are 2 drivers listed, version 21.20.16.4551 and version 21.20.16.4508 -- which one do I use?

In addition, I want to install a Samsung SSD. Here is a site I found that gives me a driver to operate the 960 EVO under Windows 7:

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/samsung-nvme-ssd-dr...

So, is that it? Can I install Windows 7 on Kaby Lake, 200 series motherboard, with Windows 7 installed on a Samsung SSD?

*** Do I need to / can I use BOTH drivers? How do I do that?
 
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Quoting Tom's kaby review:



Windows 10 Users Need Only Apply
Microsoft announced earlier this year that it would not support Kaby Lake and Zen processors with pre-Windows 10 operating systems. The company indicated that it would not update drivers for older operating systems to support the new hardware.
Based on our initial testing, we can confirm that HD Graphics 630 does not function correctly under Windows 7 and 8.1. Both operating systems install generic drivers for the display adapter, even after applying the latest drivers and updates, so many core features remain unavailable. We also experienced stability issues with Windows 7 that might even negate using an add-in GPU as a workaround.
This may be a minor concern to enthusiasts who already keep up to date. But the estimated 47% of worldwide computer users who still use Windows 7 (and the 8% on Windows 8.1) need to account for the cost of Windows 10 as part of a Kaby Lake upgrade. Microsoft allows a limited number of component changes before invalidating your OS license, so it is a valid concern if you plan to upgrade an existing system with a 100-series chipset. It's noteworthy that Microsoft's official mainstream support for Windows 7 expired in January 2015, but the company has obviously not convinced a majority of users to upgrade. Interestingly, Microsoft still offers "mainstream support" for the unpopular Windows 8 until Jan 2018, though that's misleading since it isn't supporting modern processors with the OS.
 
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I'm adamant, like so many others, that I will not install Windows 10 except as an absolute last resort (spyware, tracking you, reporting back to Microsoft, advertising that infests the OS, ugly OS, hate it).

The purpose of this thread is not to discuss the merits of my choice, but to see if the configuration I propose is workable.

Thanks
 
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then a 6700k it is for you, it is not going to be easy to get kaby to run

microsoft is really putting up a lot of barriers



you need to be lucky, some motherboard manufacturers do have software to make it work
 
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Some good questions that I have been looking into also.

On integrated graphics, here is a list of what operating systems support integrated graphics.
You need windows 10 64 bit to support HD630 graphics.
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/graphics-drivers/000005526.html

I use a Samsung 960 PRO nvme m.2 ssd. you download the needed driver directly from Samsung.
I imagine the 960 evo would be the same.

There seems to be sufficient windows 7 64 bit support for the Z270 motherboard you linked.
There may be some functions that are not supported like the fast state switching that needs windows 10, but it should run.
 
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I wonder if you really do need Windows 10 64 bit to support HD630 graphics, or if that's just Intel/Microsoft propaganda. Look here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3299031/kaby-lake-graphics-630-video-drivers-windows-x64.html?58baea8ad70e2=reload

Scroll down to response by "robrom" on Jan 28/17:

>>>>>Many thanks for the response, that's what I was doing but for whatever reason updating the driver via the Device Manager wasn't working!

Anyway problem solved as ASUS has now released a simple to run .exe beta video driver:
"Intel VGA win7_32/64/win8.1 Beta driver 21.20.16.4508 for the latest Intel processor"

HD 630 perfectly working on a i5-7500 / Win7 x64 desktop <<<<<
 
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Just get the recent cpus
 
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http://digiworthy.com/2017/01/28/windows-7-runs-on-kaby-lake-processor-igp-driver/

"Windows 7 runs on Kaby Lake processor with an older IGP driver, Test Reveals"
 
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".... the test shows that Windows 7 runs on Kaby Lake without any problems, at least with respect to the graphics unit. The HD-630 GPU could output 4K display at 60 Hz via DisplayPort, and provide audio playback via HDMI / DP.

In addition to this, it was possible to run 3DMark 11 benchmark which should allow 3D acceleration via DirectX 11 or OpenGL 4.4.

There is hardly any noticeable loss in the functionality of Kaby Lake under Windows 7, apart from occasional display errors when scaling Windows, or Google Chrome could not use the VP9 decoder.

4K video format on YouTube is playable, but when CPU load is above 50%, the frame rate drops sharply. Also, H.265 / HEVC video playback works under Windows 7, but only when using a third-party software.

So far, it looks as if Kaby Lake processors, for the most part, can be used under Windows 7, even though there is no official support for the OS."

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>> Doesn't look to me that there are ANY instability issues.

I'm hoping that the newest driver, Asus v21.20.16.4551, which is no longer beta, solves even the minor scaling issue. Have emailed ASUS, no reply yet.
 
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