Stay at 1080p or go for 1440p or 4k???

Pc6777

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OK so right now I have an Rx 480, an FX 6300 and 8 gigs ddr3. I'm upgrading to 16 gigs ddr4 and a kaby lake i7. I'm not sure if I should keep my RX 480 and 1080p monitor, or make the jump to higher resolutions. I really want to game at 4k 60 fps but that would be very costly and I would probably need a 1080 ti to do that at ultra settings. Another option is getting a GTX 1070 and a 60 Hz 1440p monitor, but I feel like the next gen 1170 or whatever will probably be able to run 4k and I would be stuck with a 1440p monitor. Another option is getting a GTX 1080 and a 4k monitor and not use ultra settings but I'm not sure is 4k high or 1440p ultra looks better and a GTX 1080 is 500 dollars which is a lot for me and I like maxing almost everything I'm my games (besides stuff that doesn't help much visual wise but kills fps). So are higher resolutions really worth it right now? And is 4k really that big of a jump over 1440p visual wise and is it worth the cost? Or is upgrading to a higher resolution not even worth it?
 
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If you believe you won't need AA then that will take a huge load of your GPU and give your FPS a solid kick in the pants. So a gtx 1080 or better would do you well for ultra settings. You won't get it in every game but you should in most. After seeing and using 4K I could not go back to lower resolution unless I had to...even then I'd probably sell a kidney or something to get 4K ;)

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It's all about price to performance. The way you broke it down is exactly what everyone looks at before making a decision. If you want the best then you'll have to pay for it. However, in your case it sounds like you would be well off with a 1070 at 1440p. It's a great resolution and is a perfect middle ground bewtween 1080p and 4K. Just keep in mind that technology will always get better and you WILL get buyers remorse when investing in PC gaming. Something new and awesome in the future will always take the place of the best out there in the present.
 

Omar14

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i7 kaby lake with 1070 will do 1440p. 4k is very difficult without multiple GPU set up. I'd recommend 1440p with a 1070 if you can afford it. I run a 1080 and i7 kaby lake and i can output 1440p pretty easy. A friend of mine has the MSI Gaming 1070: https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GAMING-GTX-1070-8G/dp/B01GXOX3SW and an older i7 4790k and he can play 1440p. You will also need a new monitor. It will be expensive, only do it if you really want to play at 1440p, to me it was worth it but I like scenery in video games.
 

Pc6777

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I think I'll just go with a 1440p monitor and a 1070, I don't see any reason to get. 1080 as a 1070 will get me over 60 fps average on pretty much any game ultra at 1440p based on benchmarks, also will future games tgat will be released in the next year or 2 need more than a 1070 to get 60 fps ultra at 1440p? And is getting a 144 Hz 1440p monitor a better option or is 60hz fine with the hardware I plan on getting?
 

Jwpanz

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The next 2 years won't shell out games that require some crazy setup. They need to sell games and the majority of players are still at 1080p. Developers won't make games that people can't play or they simply won't sell anything. For example, a GTX 750Ti or a GTX 950 can play games at or above console level at 1080p easily. Those cards are a few years old now. A 1070 will remain relevant for at about the next 3 years before you see it lag behind.

As far as a monitor goes, it goes back to how much you're willing to spend. A 60Hz monitor is fine for gaming especially since a 1070 will pump out more than 60 fps. You won't see lagging or screen tearing as along as you set V sync or G sync (if your monitor supports it). 144Hz monitors at 1440p are great and will hold their own for a long time down the road. The game will be smoother (you may not really notice compared to 60Hz) and you can keep that monitor for some time.
 

atomicWAR

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I run 4K using 2 GTX 1080s and even then I cannot max all games out, most of them I can. That's with max setting AND max filtering/AA (16x by 8x). So some of the performance depends on your definition of ultra settings. If like most modern reviews you mean in game settings...you'll be able to max most everything out save a hand full of titles at 4K with a gtx 1080 or better. However if ultra means maxed in game settings and manually setting your filtering and AA to 16x by 8x then no single GPU is strong enough for 4K in all games. Heck even at 1080P it takes both of my wife's GTX 980s to max games out according to the the later definition of ultra settings. A single GTX 980 is not enough, likely not even a single GTX 1070 or 1080 would be in all games. I do not like that reviews have changed from benchmarking games with both 16x by 8x filtering/AA on and off with max in game settings to just max in game settings (many times without both filtering/AA on or at the very least set fairly low). It inflates the amount of horse power a GPU is capable of. My point is in gaming your get what your willing to pay for and your settings habits make a huge difference. If you like me want 4K@60hz with HDR max settings, filtering and AA then you will likely not find a single GPU for several generations capable of maxing out 4K. I was gaming 1080P starting on GTX 8800s and to this day I don't know of a single GPU that can max settings, filtering/AA out in every game but we are almost there I believe...Volta maybe? 1440P and 4K the story will be much the same...likely 9+ generations from now before 4K with single GPU with max settings/filtering/AA is truly a thing.
 

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60hz will be fine for casual gaming, 144hz isn't worth it in my opinion unless you're competitive. A 1070 should last you 2-3 years at ultra. Maybe after that, you should be expecting med-high settings 60 fps.
 

atomicWAR

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As for is the extra resolution worth it? I think so but again this is subjective. If you have doubt I urge you to hit your local computer store and look at the difference. I game 4K @55" on a UHDTV about 4 feet away, so filtering and AA are still a must for me. I could see the pixels at 1080P at that distance and even at 4K I can if the conditions are just right (usually sharp edges thus why I still need AA). I know some folks who love filtering and AA but think at 4K that AA in particular is not needed on smaller panels <30". Only you can decide and the best way to do that is to see for yourself.
 

Pc6777

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If I went with a higher resolution I wouldn't need aa so that might make it a little less demanding but I still want most of not all settings maxed but I'm willing to turn one or 2 down for a big increase in fps
 

atomicWAR

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If you believe you won't need AA then that will take a huge load of your GPU and give your FPS a solid kick in the pants. So a gtx 1080 or better would do you well for ultra settings. You won't get it in every game but you should in most. After seeing and using 4K I could not go back to lower resolution unless I had to...even then I'd probably sell a kidney or something to get 4K ;)
 
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lukaven1981

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(If) u have the cash, I would suggest getting a single Gtx 1080ti OC and go with 1440p Gsync monitor. It will run all ur games great and look awsome no screen tears or anything will last u for many years to come. And if later on u want even better visuals Waite for the new Hdr 144hz 1440p Gzync ultrawide monitors but those will cost over $1000 but I believe well worth saving up for.
 

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