(Bottlenecking?) i5 4690K - MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X 8G GeForce 8 GB GDDR5

Hey guys,

So I've recently purchased a MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X 8G GeForce 8 GB GDDR5 VR for my machine but it seems that i'm getting a FPS drops when I'm playing a few games such as League of Legends, H1Z1, CSGO. I haven't tried any high demanding games like BF4 etc. I did some research and I was sure that my CPU would be able to handle it. I know that League isn't a game which is high demanding but sometimes its just dropping which it shouldn't be the case. I cap the FPS to 144 but sometimes it would just drop to 40. H1Z1 will go from 120fps to 50-40fps. And it's a bit frustrating to see that happen. If anyone could help that'll be nice.

It's a new machine only 3-4months old.

My Specs:
CPU: Intel Core i5 4690K Processor (3.5 GHz, 6 MB Cache, LGA1150 Socket)
Graphics Card: MSI Z97S Sli Krait Edition Motherboard
RAM: HyperX FURY Series 8 GB DDR3 1866 MHz CL10 DIMM Memory Module
Fan: Corsair Hydro Series H55 High Performance All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler, 120 mm Radiator
Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB 2.5 inch Solid State Drive
Corsair CP-9020098-UK VS Series VS650 ATX/EPS 80 PLUS Power Supply Unit, UK - 650 W
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  1. The lower quality VS power supply is an issue with that system, you have a low end PSU and a K model CPU along with a good video card. Could be overheating, but you should get a better quality power supply also.
  2. thats very weird, i have a GTX 980TI at 1551mhz on core, 4001 mhz on memory, with an i5 4690k at 4GHz and i dont get any bottleneck, and i play tones of games, bf1, bf3, bf4, csgo, overwatch, arma 3, killing floor 2 etc. and im able to max out all my games completely with my CPU usage at 70-80% while my GPU is at 100%. and my 980TI is faster than your 1070 so i dont know why you are getting a bottleneck. i think it must be your games, or drivers or something.
  3. Vietlamese said:
    Hey guys,

    So I've recently purchased a MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X 8G GeForce 8 GB GDDR5 VR for my machine but it seems that i'm getting a FPS drops when I'm playing a few games such as League of Legends, H1Z1, CSGO. I haven't tried any high demanding games like BF4 etc. I did some research and I was sure that my CPU would be able to handle it. I know that League isn't a game which is high demanding but sometimes its just dropping which it shouldn't be the case. I cap the FPS to 144 but sometimes it would just drop to 40. H1Z1 will go from 120fps to 50-40fps. And it's a bit frustrating to see that happen. If anyone could help that'll be nice.

    It's a new machine only 3-4months old.

    My Specs:
    CPU: Intel Core i5 4690K Processor (3.5 GHz, 6 MB Cache, LGA1150 Socket)
    Graphics Card: MSI Z97S Sli Krait Edition Motherboard
    RAM: HyperX FURY Series 8 GB DDR3 1866 MHz CL10 DIMM Memory Module
    Fan: Corsair Hydro Series H55 High Performance All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler, 120 mm Radiator
    Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB 2.5 inch Solid State Drive
    Corsair CP-9020098-UK VS Series VS650 ATX/EPS 80 PLUS Power Supply Unit, UK - 650 W

    That CPU should not be bottlenecking. Your issue is something else, especially if League of Legends is dropping frames with a GTX 1070.
  4. hang-the-9 said:
    The lower quality VS power supply is an issue with that system, you have a low end PSU and a K model CPU along with a good video card. Could be overheating, but you should get a better quality power supply also.


    Do you reckon it could be the Power Supply?

    Because I can't think of what else it could be.
  5. MaxTehLegend said:
    thats very weird, i have a GTX 980TI at 1551mhz on core, 4001 mhz on memory, with an i5 4690k at 4GHz and i dont get any bottleneck, and i play tones of games, bf1, bf3, bf4, csgo, overwatch, arma 3, killing floor 2 etc. and im able to max out all my games completely with my CPU usage at 70-80% while my GPU is at 100%. and my 980TI is faster than your 1070 so i dont know why you are getting a bottleneck. i think it must be your games, or drivers or something.


    Do you reckon it could be the the PSU? I've updated my drivers and everything. Anything on NVIDIA Control panel that I need to change? It can't be my games because I previously had a GTX 750Ti and that's running better than the 1070 that I have now. It could be something with my machine ?
  6. Nonpossible said:
    Vietlamese said:
    Hey guys,

    So I've recently purchased a MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X 8G GeForce 8 GB GDDR5 VR for my machine but it seems that i'm getting a FPS drops when I'm playing a few games such as League of Legends, H1Z1, CSGO. I haven't tried any high demanding games like BF4 etc. I did some research and I was sure that my CPU would be able to handle it. I know that League isn't a game which is high demanding but sometimes its just dropping which it shouldn't be the case. I cap the FPS to 144 but sometimes it would just drop to 40. H1Z1 will go from 120fps to 50-40fps. And it's a bit frustrating to see that happen. If anyone could help that'll be nice.

    It's a new machine only 3-4months old.

    My Specs:
    CPU: Intel Core i5 4690K Processor (3.5 GHz, 6 MB Cache, LGA1150 Socket)
    Graphics Card: MSI Z97S Sli Krait Edition Motherboard
    RAM: HyperX FURY Series 8 GB DDR3 1866 MHz CL10 DIMM Memory Module
    Fan: Corsair Hydro Series H55 High Performance All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler, 120 mm Radiator
    Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB 2.5 inch Solid State Drive
    Corsair CP-9020098-UK VS Series VS650 ATX/EPS 80 PLUS Power Supply Unit, UK - 650 W

    That CPU should not be bottlenecking. Your issue is something else, especially if League of Legends is dropping frames with a GTX 1070.




    Do you have any ideas?
  7. Vietlamese said:
    Nonpossible said:
    Vietlamese said:
    Hey guys,

    So I've recently purchased a MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X 8G GeForce 8 GB GDDR5 VR for my machine but it seems that i'm getting a FPS drops when I'm playing a few games such as League of Legends, H1Z1, CSGO. I haven't tried any high demanding games like BF4 etc. I did some research and I was sure that my CPU would be able to handle it. I know that League isn't a game which is high demanding but sometimes its just dropping which it shouldn't be the case. I cap the FPS to 144 but sometimes it would just drop to 40. H1Z1 will go from 120fps to 50-40fps. And it's a bit frustrating to see that happen. If anyone could help that'll be nice.

    It's a new machine only 3-4months old.

    My Specs:
    CPU: Intel Core i5 4690K Processor (3.5 GHz, 6 MB Cache, LGA1150 Socket)
    Graphics Card: MSI Z97S Sli Krait Edition Motherboard
    RAM: HyperX FURY Series 8 GB DDR3 1866 MHz CL10 DIMM Memory Module
    Fan: Corsair Hydro Series H55 High Performance All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler, 120 mm Radiator
    Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB 2.5 inch Solid State Drive
    Corsair CP-9020098-UK VS Series VS650 ATX/EPS 80 PLUS Power Supply Unit, UK - 650 W

    That CPU should not be bottlenecking. Your issue is something else, especially if League of Legends is dropping frames with a GTX 1070.




    Do you have any ideas?


    yeah its your power supply, theres no other explanation
  8. Sounds like your PSU can't handle the 1070. Time to upgrade
  9. Nonpossible said:
    Sounds like your PSU can't handle the 1070. Time to upgrade


    Wouldn't a 650W be enough for a power supply?
  10. Vietlamese said:
    Nonpossible said:
    Sounds like your PSU can't handle the 1070. Time to upgrade


    Wouldn't a 650W be enough for a power supply?


    for a GTX 1070 and the I5 4690K even a 500W power supply should do just fine.
  11. Vietlamese said:
    Nonpossible said:
    Sounds like your PSU can't handle the 1070. Time to upgrade


    Wouldn't a 650W be enough for a power supply?


    hang-the-9 said:
    "The lower quality VS power supply is an issue with that system, you have a low end PSU and a K model CPU along with a good video card. Could be overheating, but you should get a better quality power supply also."
  12. Nonpossible said:
    Vietlamese said:
    Nonpossible said:
    Sounds like your PSU can't handle the 1070. Time to upgrade


    Wouldn't a 650W be enough for a power supply?


    hang-the-9 said:
    "The lower quality VS power supply is an issue with that system, you have a low end PSU and a K model CPU along with a good video card. Could be overheating, but you should get a better quality power supply also."


    Any recommendations which power supply is sufficient for this system? Price is not much of an issue but I would like a good one.
  13. EVGA Supernova's are good
  14. Vietlamese said:
    Nonpossible said:
    Vietlamese said:
    Nonpossible said:
    Sounds like your PSU can't handle the 1070. Time to upgrade


    Wouldn't a 650W be enough for a power supply?


    hang-the-9 said:
    "The lower quality VS power supply is an issue with that system, you have a low end PSU and a K model CPU along with a good video card. Could be overheating, but you should get a better quality power supply also."


    Any recommendations which power supply is sufficient for this system? Price is not much of an issue but I would like a good one.



    I like the EVGA Supernova 650 or 750.
    Another brand I trust is XFX. I had one of these with an OC 4690K 4.5Ghz and an R9 390 and it worked very well.
  15. Chao,

    I'd recommend you get this as I'm using it without any problems: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
    It's a really great PSU and it's power efficient too!

    Check out my build, I'm using a similar GPU as yours. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/b/9nnH99

    P.S. I'm Viet as well. Lol.
  16. Look for a tier 1 or 2 unit off this list: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

    It's good to ensure you have a good PSU. Keep in mind, the PSU is one of few parts that can take others with it if it fails badly enough. Spending an additional $50 in a higher end unit is a nice insurance policy to have.
  17. Good with a i5 7500
  18. Just get a PSU with 500W+ with 80+ Gold. Also, I've did my build a couple months ago as well.
  19. MeesterYellow said:
    Chao,

    I'd recommend you get this as I'm using it without any problems: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
    It's a really great PSU and it's power efficient too!

    Check out my build, I'm using a similar GPU as yours. https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/b/9nnH99

    P.S. I'm Viet as well. Lol.


    So you reckon it's a PSU issue? I'll have a look into the PSU's and see what I can gather.
  20. MeesterYellow said:
    Just get a PSU with 500W+ with 80+ Gold. Also, I've did my build a couple months ago as well.


    I've just bought a EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply. It was arrive today I'll play around with the machine and see if there's improvement. If not I will be very sad.
  21. Vietlamese said:
    MeesterYellow said:
    Just get a PSU with 500W+ with 80+ Gold. Also, I've did my build a couple months ago as well.


    I've just bought a EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply. It was arrive today I'll play around with the machine and see if there's improvement. If not I will be very sad.

    You should be fine.
  22. Quote me if im wrong, but if the psu is struggling wouldnt either cpu or gpu throttle down or just crash the hole system. Maby use some monitoring software and check it out? Before spending money for no reason. I got the same setup almost with an old alot more power hungry 770 and just 500w psu never had a single problem.
  23. Your PSU is on the lower end. But your specs indicate that you have 1 stick of 8 GB of ram. Is that true? If so, then it is running in single channel mode and will be half the speed if you had two sticks running in 2x mode.
  24. hey did getting a new power supply fix it in the end?
  25. olin9 said:
    Your PSU is on the lower end. But your specs indicate that you have 1 stick of 8 GB of ram. Is that true? If so, then it is running in single channel mode and will be half the speed if you had two sticks running in 2x mode.


    This is true about the ram but I dont think thats whats gave these spikes in fps :) More of a benchmarking thing. As OP isnt responding anymore id guess either he fried his system changing the psu or his playing games and are too happy to respond to us.
  26. Did the new power supply fix your problem? Inquiring minds want to know.
  27. Sounds like your PSU is the problem, maybe upgrade to an 800-1000w psu?
  28. KHGaming4 said:
    Sounds like your PSU is the problem, maybe upgrade to an 800-1000w psu?


    lol 500w is more than enough for a 1070....
  29. MaxTehLegend said:
    KHGaming4 said:
    Sounds like your PSU is the problem, maybe upgrade to an 800-1000w psu?


    lol 500w is more than enough for a 1070....


    That's very true. 500 should be plenty. I think the argument most people are making is that the particular model of PSU he has isn't great. Still, we would like to hear back from OP to see if that was the issue or not.
  30. Hi guys, so sorry for the late response. So I managed to get the Power Supply. The EVGA 650 W G2 GOLD 80+ Modular PC Power Supply Unit is boosting performance just a little bit I am getting high FPS but it seems like when I get into for example team fights sometimes the FPS just drops seems like it can't be handled. But the Power Supply did boost FPS. Still getting FPS drops in games such as League and H1Z1. Which aren't high demading games. Surely the 1070 can handle League, even my 750 ti did a better job.

    I am using only 1 stick of 8GB RAM.
  31. Vietlamese said:
    Hi guys, so sorry for the late response. So I managed to get the Power Supply. The EVGA 650 W G2 GOLD 80+ Modular PC Power Supply Unit is boosting performance just a little bit I am getting high FPS but it seems like when I get into for example team fights sometimes the FPS just drops seems like it can't be handled. But the Power Supply did boost FPS. Still getting FPS drops in games such as League and H1Z1. Which aren't high demading games. Surely the 1070 can handle League, even my 750 ti did a better job.

    I am using only 1 stick of 8GB RAM.

    So the problem wasn't just the PSU. What are your temps (CPU and GPU)? Try disabling all power savings features in the bios and set power mode under Windows to full power.
  32. it's possible that if you have the settings cranked to the max with 144fps that it is just a little too much when there are tons of things going on.. The way you can test this is to turn the settings down a bit, specifically the effects / shadows and see if it still happens. If this still happens then something else is wrong. What changed from when you got the 750ti and the 1070? You said the 750ti did a better job, so did your 750ti run these games on the 100% same settings at 144fps just fine?

    Also, try using afterburner and it might help to find out what is going on when these dips occur. You can track the power usage along with everything else to look for a pattern when this happens. Run afterburner and tell us or upload a photo of the cpu / gpu usage and all of that other good stuff.
  33. MeesterYellow said:
    Vietlamese said:
    Hi guys, so sorry for the late response. So I managed to get the Power Supply. The EVGA 650 W G2 GOLD 80+ Modular PC Power Supply Unit is boosting performance just a little bit I am getting high FPS but it seems like when I get into for example team fights sometimes the FPS just drops seems like it can't be handled. But the Power Supply did boost FPS. Still getting FPS drops in games such as League and H1Z1. Which aren't high demading games. Surely the 1070 can handle League, even my 750 ti did a better job.

    I am using only 1 stick of 8GB RAM.

    So the problem wasn't just the PSU. What are your temps (CPU and GPU)? Try disabling all power savings features in the bios and set power mode under Windows to full power.



    My temps are pretty average. 40 degrees for both the GPU's and CPU.
  34. t99 said:
    it's possible that if you have the settings cranked to the max with 144fps that it is just a little too much when there are tons of things going on.. The way you can test this is to turn the settings down a bit, specifically the effects / shadows and see if it still happens. If this still happens then something else is wrong. What changed from when you got the 750ti and the 1070? You said the 750ti did a better job, so did your 750ti run these games on the 100% same settings at 144fps just fine?

    Also, try using afterburner and it might help to find out what is going on when these dips occur. You can track the power usage along with everything else to look for a pattern when this happens. Run afterburner and tell us or upload a photo of the cpu / gpu usage and all of that other good stuff.


    I actually don't have a 144Hz monitor. But good thing you mentioned when I do crank down the settings I am still getting drops. Honestly it's really weird. I can't figure out the problem. The power supply did boost performance with regards to FPS but the dropping is a weird issue.
  35. Bobplant said:
    Did the new power supply fix your problem? Inquiring minds want to know.


    It didn't solve the problem.
  36. olin9 said:
    Your PSU is on the lower end. But your specs indicate that you have 1 stick of 8 GB of ram. Is that true? If so, then it is running in single channel mode and will be half the speed if you had two sticks running in 2x mode.


    I would upgrade to 4 sticks of 16GB
    But would it be a solution to why I may be getting FPS drops?
  37. Nonpossible said:
    MaxTehLegend said:
    KHGaming4 said:
    Sounds like your PSU is the problem, maybe upgrade to an 800-1000w psu?


    lol 500w is more than enough for a 1070....


    That's very true. 500 should be plenty. I think the argument most people are making is that the particular model of PSU he has isn't great. Still, we would like to hear back from OP to see if that was the issue or not.


    Still not fixed :(
  38. jooshi said:
    olin9 said:
    Your PSU is on the lower end. But your specs indicate that you have 1 stick of 8 GB of ram. Is that true? If so, then it is running in single channel mode and will be half the speed if you had two sticks running in 2x mode.


    This is true about the ram but I dont think thats whats gave these spikes in fps :) More of a benchmarking thing. As OP isnt responding anymore id guess either he fried his system changing the psu or his playing games and are too happy to respond to us.


    Changing the PSU was a big hassle. But the problem isn't still resolved.
  39. Any other suggestion guys?
  40. What programs are you running while playing (background, foreground)?

    Are your CPU cores parked or unparked?

    Also have you tried disabling all power savings features in the bios and setting power mode under Windows to full power?
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