Rx 470 or Gtx 1050ti?

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thatsooomohit

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Hey Guys,
I am thinking to upgrade my old PC and thinking to add either Zotac Gtx 1050ti Mini or a MSI Rx 470 gaming x (Both 4 Gb version).
As i'm getting both of the card for almost exact price I would prefer the Rx 470 but Its too much powerful for my old CPU.
My current pc:
CPU-core 2 Quad q8400 Oc'ed to 3.0 ghz
ram- 8GB DDR3
PSU- Corsair VS 450

My question is that Should I get Rx 470 or the 1050ti even tho they both will Bottleneck my CPU, but that might happen only in CPU heavy games? RIGHT??

And is that PSU good enough to Power RX 470?

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You're probably pushing 200w max at 3ghz oc mate.

The msi gaming 470 is a 120w max card so your PSU is a non-issue.

Bottlenecking ??

Your CPU may well hold the 470 back from full usage.

This is not really an issue.
Where a 1050ti would be running 100% with a 75w power draw , in the same situation a 470 (being a more powerful card) would probably be sitting around 80% with a 85w power draw.

These are extreme scenarios IMO, what the 470 will do is allow you to up the graphics settings over & above what the 1050ti can manage with no drop in fps.

If the 1050ti were substantially cheaper it would still be a good option.
In your case where you're stating the 1050ti mini & MSI gaming 470 are roughly the same price though it would be...
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if you search for review about those two, rx470 is better, it is more middle to high end than the 1050ti which is meant to be a entry level gaming gpu atm

the psu for both should be enough but it would be ideal to have a 500 watts psu but if you plan to overclock the gpu and the cpu, you might get a sudden restart or a gpu crash because that cpu you have is power hungry and overclocked is more power hungry
 
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A bottleneck is inevitable. Some video effects are CPU based, others GPU based.

In a general sense:
480 = 1060 6gb > 1060 3gb > 470 > > > 1050 ti > 460

Both cards are pretty close, but the fact you get Freesync with the RX 470, over G-Sync, means that you upgrade the monitor without spending an extra $250 for the synchronization technology. Freesync is more impressive than 4k IMO.
 
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You're probably pushing 200w max at 3ghz oc mate.

The msi gaming 470 is a 120w max card so your PSU is a non-issue.

Bottlenecking ??

Your CPU may well hold the 470 back from full usage.

This is not really an issue.
Where a 1050ti would be running 100% with a 75w power draw , in the same situation a 470 (being a more powerful card) would probably be sitting around 80% with a 85w power draw.

These are extreme scenarios IMO, what the 470 will do is allow you to up the graphics settings over & above what the 1050ti can manage with no drop in fps.

If the 1050ti were substantially cheaper it would still be a good option.
In your case where you're stating the 1050ti mini & MSI gaming 470 are roughly the same price though it would be mental to even consider the 1050 ti, ignoring the fact that a 470 is hands down a better card than a 1050ti you are also getting a better quality card with a far far better cooling system , that 470 will run both cooler & quieter than the zotac 100% of the time
 
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personally, i'd go with the 1050ti. But still, the RX 470 is better. The reason i'd go for the 1050ti is because most games out there are bound with alot of Nvidia technologies, which make the RX 470 perform more sluggish. But if you're running games like doom(vulkan) then you'll see the RX 470 will outperform the 1050ti.
 
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bottleneck means that or the cpu or the gpu can do more, but the gpu or the cpu can't do it at the same speed

so ne will not give 100% it can but the other will

that means that you can get more frames per second but one of the two, will not be able to

it is not the end of the world, for example, instead of reaching 100 fps on cs go, if there is cpu bottleneck, you get 80 or 70fps, still lots of fps but less than what your gpu or cpu could do

not the end of the world, but a wasted oportunity to get a very good gaming experience
 
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There is not a single game out there that gives better performance with a 1050ti than with a rx 470.

Even a blatant nvidia biased title performs better on the 470 due to its sheer extra gruntnin hardware terms.

I can't understand why anyone would go with a second tier zotac single fan 1050ti as opposed to one of the best aftermarket RX 470 models there is.
 
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well, since you guys are pretty quickly triggered, ill explain. This is by the way totally MY opinion so just stop with trying to be smart guy; it doesnt matter and no one cares. In my opinion, the 1050ti just delivers smoother FPS then the RX 470, despite the rx 470 giving higher numbers. So get an rx 470 i guess. Are we all done here guys? for sake.
 
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+thatsooomohit I have a different opinion. Were it me, I'd either consider getting a used 750 Ti off Ebay for $50 USD or a new RX 480 4 GB from NewEgg. My reasoning: The GTX 1050 Ti is about $150 (minus a $25 rebate card). The RX 470 offers approximately 50% more performance for only $25 more. And for $15 on top of that you're at the price point of the RX 480.

MSI Radeon RX 480 armor 4G OC
$189.99 ($169.99 after $20.00 rebate card) ($4.99 Shipping)
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137049

Looking at the item above, if you consider the $20 rebate card, you're effectively paying only $20 more than the pre-sale GTX 1050 Ti, but gaining double the performance. Add to this that the RX 480 comes with a code for Doom; neither the 1050 Ti or RX 470 currently come with a game code. Being that your Core 2 Quad Q8400 is eight year old, I assume that you'll be looking to upgrade platforms in the next 12 months. It would be a shame for you to spend $125-$150 on a 1050 Ti, only to find it under-powered once you upgrade your processor. That card is equivalent to a GTX 960's performance. Like I mentioned, I'd personally only invest $50 in a used 750 Ti, or invest in a RX 480 4 GB, to really solidify my upgrade.

! Caution: Your platform is old. Even once you upgrade the BIOS and chipset, there is a small possibility that a current generation GPU won't work. Make sure that you order from a company with a no hassle return policy (e.g. NewEgg or Amazon), and keep the original manufacturer and shipping boxes.
 
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+thatsooomohit One last thing...

For a $150 investment, you could also purchase a Pentium G4560 and B250 motherboard. That processor has to be at least 50% more powerful than your current quad core chip. The benefits would be a faster processor, SATA 3, PCIe 3.0, higher memory bandwidth, new chipset, USB 3.1, etc. Then I would sell the CPU / MB / DDR2 RAM as a bundle and use the proceeds to buy 8 or 16 GB of DDR4 RAM (or 8 GB and used 750 Ti off Ebay), and perhaps a new Windows license off Kinguin for $20 or so. That's something that I would seriously consider doing in your position.
 
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If you can afford this it would be the best option by far! This is a great deal.
 
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