Best graphics card under ₹9000

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Hello guys,
I'm from India.
Please suggest me the best graphics card under ₹9000 ($60 - $100). I want to play Games like FIFA 17, Rise of the tomb raider, GTA V at medium or high settings at constant 30 - 40 fps.

The current specs of my PC are as follows-
Processor - Intel pentium E5700 3.00 Ghz LGA775.
Motherboard - Asus P5G41T-M LX3.
RAM - DDR3 6GB.
HDD - Seagate 500 GB 7200RPM.
Power supply - Corsair 460W.
 
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You can use "game-debate" for both cpu and gpu comparisons. But they're not that accurate.
"Gpuuserbenchmark" and "cpuuserbenchmark" are trusted sites. Google them and you'll find easily.

By architecture what i meant in my post wasn't 32-bit or 64-bit. I meant the physical architecture of the circuitry, which defines a new generation.
Uh... forget that, it gets too technical.

Now on to your question,
x86 is another name for 32-bit. x64 is another name for 64-bit. I would say they are "system types". A 32-bit system can't handle more than 4gb of ram. 64-bit systems handle more ram. That's the main difference, and the only one that matters to the average user. Almost all systems these days are 64-bit. So they can take advantage of more...
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You can't play the mentioned games with that CPU.
You should first consider a complete system upgrade before buying any card.
And you aren't going to get a decent card under 100$ that can handle those games, especially Rise of Tomb Raider.
 

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Sameer Sohail. You can't play the mentioned games with that CPU.You should first consider a complete system upgrade before buying any card.And you aren't going to get a decent card under 100$ that can handle those games, especially Rise of Tomb Raider.

Firstly, sorry for voting you down. I accidentally clicked the button.

Secondly, I've thought of buying these components -
Intel Pentium G4400 - ₹4585.
Asus h110m-e d3 motherboard - ₹5000.

GPU - http://www.amazon.in/Sapphire-Radeon-GDDR5-Graphics-11257-10-20G/dp/B01MQRV0S5/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1489257469&sr=8-6&keywords=rx+460 - ₹8000

Total - ₹18000 (approx.)
My budget - ₹16000.
It would be very nice help if you could suggest anything better in above list under ₹16000.

Alternatively, I have been getting advices to buy-
1. Any core2 duo or core 2 quad under ₹5000.
2. Anu beast gpu with remaining cash of ₹10000-₹11000.

If you think 2nd opt is good then plwase suggest me these two components as well.
Thank you
 
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That is very good. You should go for it.

And do not buy a core 2 duo and core 2 quad. They are obsolete. No games are being optimized for such old hardware. No use in getting a core 2 cpu.
And if you get a beast card with a core 2 cpu. It would be a waste, as the card would get severely bottlenecked by cpu.
 
Rise of the Tomb Raider needs a lot of videocard performance, otherwise you'll be closer to 30fps range than 60fps at 1080p at anything higher than low settings. GTA V needs videocard power and a quad core, or a dual core with hyperthreading if you're willing to sacrifice some performance.

What I'd do is upgrade the CPU to a Core 2 Quad Q6600. It's a very budget level CPU but it has some advantages. It allows you to continue to use what you already have, no need to buy different memory or motherboard. It is a quad core, so that does help in certain games. It is available very cheap. Then I'd get a used videocard that your PSU has the connectors for. You haven't said if yours has one 6 pin pci-ex connector or maybe two, which is it? A used gaming card could potentially get you a lot more performance than a new RX 460 and for lower cost. By the way, make sure your motherboard bios is up to date.
 
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No please trust me don't get a core 2 quad.

@dontlistentome My brother had a Q9650 with a GTX 760 and Rise of Tomb Raider suffered from major drops due to the cpu.
A q6600 is even weaker. That is not acceptable at all i think. And if you pair a RX 460 or above with that, there would be a serious bottleneck.

@Varinderpal Singh If you want something cheaper, maybe consider a used 2nd gen i5 build.
But not a Q6600 at all.
 

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sameer sohail said:
That is very good. You should go for it.

And do not buy a core 2 duo and core 2 quad. They are obsolete. No games are being optimized for such old hardware. No use in getting a core 2 cpu.
And if you get a beast card with a core 2 cpu. It would be a waste, as the card would get severely bottlenecked by cpu.

Thanx for advice
 
There is only one video card in your price range I'd even consider: The Zotac ZT-P10500A-10L for ₹7750.97 at Amazon India (at the time I respond to you.)

http://in.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#X=0,900000&c=208,379,380,355,311,312,326,377,376,370

Also feel free to use that site to build your part list and keep it organized, compatible, and in budget. You can save the build combos you like, and play around with them to see what changes in certain areas will do. The site might not be all-inclusive to computer parts merchants in India, but it also allows you to enter your own pricing too. (It's up to you to notate the source in that case.)

IF at all possible, You want to stay within the last two generations of CPUs. Preferably with an i3, but if budget forces the issue, a Pentium.
 

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There is only one video card in your price range I'd even consider: The Zotac ZT-P10500A-10L for ₹7750.97 at Amazon India (at the time I respond to you.)

http://in.pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#X=0,900...

Also feel free to use that site to build your part list and keep it organized, compatible, and in budget. You can save the build combos you like, and play around with them to see what changes in certain areas will do. The site might not be all-inclusive to computer parts merchants in India, but it also allows you to enter your own pricing too. (It's up to you to notate the source in that case.)

IF at all possible, You want to stay within the last two generations of CPUs. Preferably with an i3, but if budget forces the issue, a Pentium.

You should see this-
http://www.amazon.in/dp/B01M4MIU94/?tag=pcp03-21
 


Same video card.... Unfortunately, it doesn't look like the quoted 7750.97 seller is visible to me at least. Parts are just crazy priced over there anyway.


I just re-read some of what I stated.... It's probably more appropriate to be within the last two generations of GPUs while up to four generations (no older than 3rd Gen) of CPU is fine
 
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@shrapnel_indie 3rd gen is not necessary. If you are going to get a used i5, then even 2nd gen is more than enough bro. Especially with low or mid-range cards. Something like an i5-2400 will suffice.
 

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Sorry to say, but can anyone of you please explain me about cpu or gpu generations. I'm new to all these stuffs
 
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A generation means a whole lineup of products released in the same time period, based on similar architecture. Architecture means how the product works and its circuitry etc. Each cpu lineup includes core i3, i5, i7, pentium, celeron CPUs. If they all are released in the same time period and have same architecture, they are one generation. Like core i3 6100, i5 6400, i7 6700k, are all 6th generation cpus. The current generation is 7th and has it's own core i series and other cpus.
A motherboard is made for one generation specifically, as the socket on motherboard which holds the cpu is different for every generation. A mobo which runs 7th gen cpus, can hold i3, i5, i7 or any cpu of 7th gen. But not of any other generation.
Gpus are also in generations, while they are referred to as "series" instead of generations. The geforce 10 series is one generation which includes 1050, 1060 and so on.
The previous one was 900 series with 950, 960, 970 gpus.
Amd has it's own generations. Rx 460 470, 480 are one generation.
Gpus all fit in one slot, the "x16 pci-e" on the motherboard. So the socket thing doesn't apply on gpus. That's a cpu-specific thing.

Newer generations are faster and consume less electricity.
Older generations will be relatively slower but cheaper.
So, a 6th gen i3 will be faster than a 2nd gen i5. Similarly, a 7th gen i7 and 4th gen i7 would not be same. because technology advances rapidly.
That is why generation matters.

Easy way to do this comparison thing is just compare the models of the cpus or gpus that you are considering. You'll know which one is better.
There are plenty of sites which do this.
 

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You say there are many sites which do this comparison. Can you name some?
Also, could you please throw some more light on architecture specifically 32-bit, 64-bit, x86 and if there are some othes as well
 
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You can use "game-debate" for both cpu and gpu comparisons. But they're not that accurate.
"Gpuuserbenchmark" and "cpuuserbenchmark" are trusted sites. Google them and you'll find easily.

By architecture what i meant in my post wasn't 32-bit or 64-bit. I meant the physical architecture of the circuitry, which defines a new generation.
Uh... forget that, it gets too technical.

Now on to your question,
x86 is another name for 32-bit. x64 is another name for 64-bit. I would say they are "system types". A 32-bit system can't handle more than 4gb of ram. 64-bit systems handle more ram. That's the main difference, and the only one that matters to the average user. Almost all systems these days are 64-bit. So they can take advantage of more memory.


Well it's better if you google such stuff if you want to know about it, than asking on forums. Because this thread is being derailed from the original topic, and you also won't have to wait for someone to answer your query. There are many articles out there which easily explain basic computer tech and terminology. Better to do some research first. It helps alot.
 
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Generation or series: It can be thought of a bit like automobiles and their model years. Except in this case, each "model year" brings improvements... sometimes minor, sometimes major. So say between 6th generation and 7th generation CPUS, the improvement, everyone gets to see, is a boost in speed. Some model years share CPU socket, many do not, like some automobiles use regular petrol, and others use diesel. Usually the same socket means you can swap out model year CPUs, but they may need a firmware update to recognize the newer model and take advantage of it (or actually use it in cases.) So, it is imperative that you get a motherboard that supports you chosen CPU. (also make sure you get the RAM that is supported as well.)

As to x86 and 32-bit... they are the same, as is x64 and 64-bit. They refer to an internal structure that is common in all modern CPUs. 32-bit is limited to 4GB of RAM, 64-bit can access much more. The instructions used internally reflect that, and are divided up into either x86 or x64 instructions. For the most part, you as a computer user only need worry about that if you are using a 32-bit (x86) Operating System.

AMD had a model year where they actually went backwards, and then every model year since, they tried to fix it, but never got it quite right. This new model year for AMD is a major improvement as they have gotten their CPU performance back on track.


More pertinent to your initial question:
Graphics generations, all modern ones, use the PCIe slots on the motherboard, with usually PCIe x8 being the slowest you want to use. Now, the model year differences here, are power use, how fast they get things done, and what technology they use to do it (DIrectX, OpenGL, Vulkan)... In many cases, the newer generation GPU has the performance of last years model, a "designation", or better, above. So, the NVidia GTX-1060 6GB performs more like the previous generation's GTX-970... or AMD's RX-480 performs similarly to a R9-390 or 390x.

Unfortunately, NEW, with a budget of ₹9000, you only have that one card available. Bump up the budget, and you do get a few more cards at ₹10000.


Edit: corrected wording.