First PC Build In YEARS - Please Help!

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Just looking for a second opinion here before I start to pull the trigger on parts!! Below is the parts list that I have so far. First thing I would be very grateful for is if someone would double check me on my parts compatibilities. According to the website, I am good. However, I don't very much trust that so I've tried to verify everything and all seems to be good. Would you all agree?

Secondly, I am unsure on the H100i V2 as I am terrified of the idea of a closed-loop leak. Most likely going to swap it for a heatsink / air system, but I'm unsure as to which I should go with. I don't plan on OC'ing, although I may do it at some point or another. I plan on using it for mainly rendering/gaming purposes. I will be using three monitors on the rig.

I'd like the heatsink / air system to match the overall color scheme of black/red, but I know that sometimes it's impossible to get the best of both worlds.

Also, do you all think the stock fans on this case will be enough?

Last question - what is everyone's opinion on this build?

Sorry for so many questions, but thank you in advance!!!

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Devansmain/saved/39sMpg
 
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Yes, the parts are compatible.

The H100i V2 has a warranty of 5 years. It should be fine as long as you use the correct screws when installing it, and don't force screws that are too long in. That would break one of the pipes in it.

I would suggest the be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 if you go the air route. It's one of the best looking air coolers in my opinion. It can be a pain to install, but the looks are worth it in certain builds.

The case fans in the Corsair 760T are (in all likelihood) more than you'll ever need, or possibly even want if you care about noise.
From the top:

Yes, the parts are compatible.

The H100i V2 has a warranty of 5 years. It should be fine as long as you use the correct screws when installing it, and don't force screws that are too long in. That would break one of the pipes in it.

I would suggest the be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 if you go the air route. It's one of the best looking air coolers in my opinion. It can be a pain to install, but the looks are worth it in certain builds.

The case fans in the Corsair 760T are (in all likelihood) more than you'll ever need, or possibly even want if you care about noise.
 
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Crazycoder4life

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I do know that the quality of the AIO coolers is getting much nicer than they used to be, but the thought of frying a $2k rig still worries me. It's my understanding that I wouldn't see any difference in performance or temps really (other than maybe a degree or two) since I won't be OCing right? My plan was to go the air route and then maybe go AIO if need be. I mean, I know they have a warranty but I highly doubt they'll cover the rest of the rig if it leaks. :(

What is your opinion on this build? I'll be running three monitors on it and will be using it for (some) gaming (ESO, COD, etc) but primarily rendering purposes and less resource intensive tasks like programming, etc.

 


The main reason to go with an AIO is if you move the PC. If you aren't going to move it much, save your money and get an air cooler. As far as frying your PC, that isn't very likely if you're careful during installation. There are many other things that are more likely to go wrong, such as a fan bearing going out.
 

Crazycoder4life

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I'm glad that you brought that up. I didn't even notice that, and now on second look I see that PCPartspicker even says that. Jeez I'm glad I'm posted - I'm blind as a bat apparently. :no:

I'll be glad to choose a Z270 considering the fact that it will take better advantage of the new chipset anyways! Any suggestions for a Z270 that goes with the red/black theme? It does worry me though that you said "more of a chance" .. What would make it possibly not work?
 

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If you have the money I'd upgrade the SSD to 512MB as you'll get sick of HDD loading times for games compared to the SSD.

What monitor do you have ? if it's a 60hz 1080p then a 1080 is probably overkill a 1070 is a good buy. If you have 1440p/144hz or 4k/60hz Upgrade the 1080 to a 1080 Ti (20 - 30%) faster.

The K70 keyboard is ok, but its a keyboard at the end of the day and only you can judge it's value. Me personally i'd rather invest in speed of components.

+1 on the motherboard advice above - i didn't look at the m/b tbh :)
 

Crazycoder4life

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I'm sorry to be pain - but can you elaborate a bit? Is it the weight and possible stress on the board when moving the machine that causes this concern? I mean the heatsink you recommended seems like it would be light enough for this to not be a concern? Maybe I'm misunderstanding.

& I don't plan on moving it a whole lot if any. Only time I could see myself moving it is if I physically move residences, or maybe move my desk to the other side of the room (would be very rare).. I would take the chance of the ball bearing over the leak any day. At least then I would have a chance for warning signs (temp monitors, etc) rather than it just immediately shorting. Don't want to try and reflow a brand new board.. :pt1cable:
 


That makes sense. The risk of an air cooler in transport is if you drop it even slightly. If you do, the cooler can tear itself loose and destroy the motherboard, CPU, GPU, and anything else it may knock into.
 


Maybe a 75/25% chance. I've seen 3 - 4 people in here who purchased Z270 mobos.

3 of them didnt have the right BIOS on them to support a Kaby Lake.

This mobo should work out of the box with a 7700K. It needs BIOS 3.0 which is the first BIOS

Core i7 Kabylake i7-7700K 100 4.2 1M 8M B0 91 HD Graphics 630 1150MHz 7A62v30.zip

This mobo should work

This mobo will work with a 7700K

This mobo will work


 

Crazycoder4life

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Jonathan, thanks for the input! I do have the money, but I think I'll stick with the 256. 256 is plenty for an OS and a game or two. Plus, I literally only play one game that is actually downloaded onto the drive. I also only play said game for maybe an hour or two a month, so it's not a concern really. :p I've used nothing but HDDs for years so I think I'll be okay. May plan on upgrading/adding an additional eventually though!

As far as monitors, I will be running 3x1080p. I could probably use the TI with that, what do you think? Then again I'm not sure if there is a need, my buddy is getting 60fps on 3x1080 on almost any game with just a 980.

As for the keyboard, I totally agree. But I do definitely want a red back-lit keyboard and this is the only nice one for a decent price that I can find. I like how it's adjustable and has the usb ports built into it for headsets, etc.

Thanks again!!
 

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Paul, which would you go with? I really like the LEDs on the Z270, but the B250 is almost just as nice for half the price. I mean, all I really see spec wise that is better is support for 4133 memory? The only other specs/benefits that I see over the B250 are macro related for gaming, VR ready & boost instead of just ready, steel armor (boost?) on the RAM, and flashback+. Not sure how much I will really use the extra bells and whistles and surely the boost on RAM isn't that significant?
 

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read some of your parts..my thoughts....i don,t use artic silver, i like coolermaster thermal past..its not thick and sticky, and easy to work with...
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3FA3WM4794&cm_re=coolermaster_thermal_paste-_-1DR-0004-00013-_-Product

Also..i would not buy the corsair vergenance....i had some, and that heatsink came apart..i see some of them now have screws in them..but i will not buy it anymore...go with Gskilll.....great memory

and, my last thought..your motherboard has a m.2 slot.......why not get a m.2 960 evo drive...they are crazy fast comparted to the sandisk ssd
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147593&cm_re=samsung_960evo-_-20-147-593-_-Product

and...corsair makes great cooling device..no need to worry..i have a h100i , bought in 2013...still good
 

Crazycoder4life

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How does the coolermaster compare in thermal conductivity to arctic silver? I find that arctic is really easy to apply using the line method. Is that the method you used? I will look into the gskill, I appreciate it!! And which MOBO are you looking at? I will not be going with the one listed in my original post. Thankfully, Paul pointed out a compatibility concern with that one. I will most likely be going with a B250 M3 or Z270 M7. I do like the idea of those kind of SSDs rather than SATA. Thanks for the suggestion! Is that a special slot? I always thought they were just PCI-E.

In regards to the corsair cooling, I would like to think that there is nothing to worry about. I do know that it is a quality product, but I also know that if you google "H100i leak" you will see dozens, if not hundreds, of horror stories. :( (I could just be anal.. :p)
 
I've never built an MSI mobo. I've only built ASUS systems (well for now).

I dont worry about ram that much either. If it works, thats good enough for me.

I dont bother with things like VR, or any boost feature

I've built 3 ASUS system so far. 2 use DDR2 this uses DDR3. And this is the only system ( for now) thats got an SSD in it

Wish some of these mobos were that cheap here in NZ. Its damn expensive here to get parts for a system, if you build one

Like that M.2 NVME 250 GB. It's over twice the price here in some shops ! !




 

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i have the z97 msi gaming 5, it has a m.2 slot...I never had one...but will get one Wednesday...about 5 times faster than the ssd drive u are looking at...u can use any thermal u want..i just like the coolermaster....I have used artic before, did not care for the stiky stuff...I do understand the thing about cooling, its ur choice.....the corsair liquid cooling keeps the cpu cool, especially if u overclock...also....when u buy a motherboard, look at the description before u buy, it should list m.2 in the motherboard details.......as I said before, the corsair memory heatshield just came loose and fell off the memory...as I said, no more