Cheaper i5 4th Gen bundle or more expensive i5 7th Gen bundle?

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Hey guys,

So I'm stuck with a bit of an issue here and I need help making a decision. I have the choice to buy a second-hand i5 4590 and an MSI Z97 mobo for about R4,000 (South African Rand), which is about $305 (directly converted), OR I can be safer and more "future-proof" with a newer and more expensive, i5 7500, MSI h110 Pro, and 8 gigs of Crucial 2400mhz DDR4 RAM for about R5,500 ($420). So, my question to you is which kit do I go for? I'm an animator and illustrator by trade, so I use programs like After Effects, Photoshop and Illustrator quite a lot. When I'm not working I'm always gaming, which is pretty much most of the time outside of work hours. Would I experience a large amount of performance loss if I opted for the cheaper option, and is it worth it going for the Kaby Lake kit? These are the best options within my budget and I'd prefer if you guys didnt recommend US sites and etc for ordering other parts.

Cheers and thanks in advance.

P.s I'm upgrading from an FX-8120 and Asus m5a78LM
 
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The second option (i5-7500) should have been paired with a B250 motherboard to eliminate the possibility of BIOS update issues.

The first option (i5-4590) should have been paired with a more affordable H97 (or H87, or B85), non-overclockable motherboard.

The main disadvantage of the 4th-gen i5-4590 against the 7th-gen i5-7500 is the former's higher power consumption for the slightly lesser performance:
i5-4590 base to boost clock speeds is 3.30GHz to 3.70GHz; i5-7500 is 3.40GHz to 3.80GHz
i5-4590 is 22nm architecture having a TDP of 84W; i5-7500 is 14nm having a TDP of only 65W
i5-4590 supports up to 32GB DDR3 RAM at 1.5V; i5-7500 supports 64GB DDR4 RAM at only 1.35V
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Both second-hand builds doesn't really make sense. The first build has a locked CPU (i5-4590) paired with an overclockable motherboard (MSI Z97). Did not mention how many DDR3 RAM capacity or HDD/SSD Storage capacity in that build (I'm assuming it doesn't have any, hence a lower price?).

The second build has a 7th-gen Kaby Lake (i5-7500) paired with an older-gen motherboard (H110 chipset). This pairing works IF the BIOS was updated for the H110 to support the 7th-gen CPU (I'm assuming since it is second-hand, it has been updated. But check first as maybe it is the reason why the seller is selling it). It also has only 8GB of DDR4 RAM. I guess it doesn't have a GPU.

For gaming purposes, an i5 should suffice. 8GB RAM is the minimum nowadays but preferrably 16GB.

What I don't see any of these builds benefitting you greatly is in the multimedia area. For the work you are doing, you would want an i7 (to take advantage of hyperthreading) and a minimum 16GB RAM (if budget permits, 32GB). An SSD would also help a lot in this area.

Now just to answer your question, between the two choices you have, the newer and more expensive (the second build) would be better than the older cheaper (the first build). But if I were you, I'd get an i7 instead.
 
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Hey guys, thanks for your feedback. Just to clarify, the second option is not from a second hand source. It will be bought new from a reputable supplier here in South Africa. As for the suggestion to the i7, with all due respect I obviously considered that as an option, but as I stated, the two things I mentioned are the best choices within my budget. I don't own an SSD and won't be planning to get one any time soon as they are quite expensive here. To be honest, looking purely at these two options and keeping budget in mind, I'm leaning towards the i5 4590. Performance seems close (or at least closer than my ancient 8120) to the current gen Intel chips. Plus I'd save a heft R1,500 (That's quite a hell of a lot).

How much would I be losing out if I went for the 4590 as opposed to the 7500? I already own 8gb of DDR3 RAM and that should be fine for me for now if I were to choose the 4590 (upgrading RAM within those restraints would be a lot cheaper than DDR4).

*Update* The motherboard for the Kaby Lake option is the H110 PRO M2 (Just to be specific and to clarify)
 
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The second option (i5-7500) should have been paired with a B250 motherboard to eliminate the possibility of BIOS update issues.

The first option (i5-4590) should have been paired with a more affordable H97 (or H87, or B85), non-overclockable motherboard.

The main disadvantage of the 4th-gen i5-4590 against the 7th-gen i5-7500 is the former's higher power consumption for the slightly lesser performance:
i5-4590 base to boost clock speeds is 3.30GHz to 3.70GHz; i5-7500 is 3.40GHz to 3.80GHz
i5-4590 is 22nm architecture having a TDP of 84W; i5-7500 is 14nm having a TDP of only 65W
i5-4590 supports up to 32GB DDR3 RAM at 1.5V; i5-7500 supports 64GB DDR4 RAM at only 1.35V
Benchmark ratings: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7500-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4590/3648vs2604

If budget is a big issue. Then, you have already answered your question by going for the cheaper option (the first option).
 
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