First PC build: compatibility check & suggestions

Archmad

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Hello everyone,

So I am planning on building my first computer so I started making a collection of all the pieces that I would like to have. For this task, I used the www.pcpartpicker.com tool. I will be using this computer solely for playing games.
These are the components that I am planning to use.

So my questions are the following:
1) Are there any compatibility issues with the selected components?
2) Can I save some money from certain parts while keeping the same performance?
3) What kind of UPS should I buy to protect the system?
4) I am planning on buying the parts from Europe since I live there. Will it be cheaper to order them from the US? (I doubt)
5) Will prices fall over the next 5 months?

Notes:
1) I selected the Intel core i7-7700K because I found that the price gap between the i7-6700 or the i7-7700 was not that big
2) I don't care a single bit about colors and stuff like that
3) I did not choose an external hard drive or a mouse because I already have one
4) I am planning on building this computer over the summer, and my budget will be around 1400€ (or 1491.77$)

Thanks a lot, and apologies if I posted this thread in the wrong category.
 
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I recommend saving up to 13.5k and getting this 1070 144hz build: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/mxgzjc
But keep in mind I STRONGLY recommend you get the above build, getting this GPU if you can instead of the FE, it costs 150 more but cools much better: https://www.komplett.no/product/892078/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/skjermkort/pci-express/gainward-geforce-gtx-1070-phoenix#

If you can't save up to that, get this: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/xV442R
From the top:

1) The motherboard may require a firmware update to work with that CPU.
2) The sound card is unnecessary. It doesn't give you a noticeable improvement over onboard sound unless you are using some very specific gear. Also, the network card is redundant, as the motherboard already has gigabit ethernet.
3) APS makes some of the more reliable UPS available. Which one depends on how long you want to keep the computer on when the power goes down. You can get a 500-700 VA unit if you just want to be able to power down safely when the power goes out.
4) I don't know for sure, but I don't think the US prices+added shipping will be any less than buying locally.
5) Prices are always falling. It's just a fact of life. If you can wait, you can save some money. It's not something to worry about too much, though.

Lastly, the Corsair fan you chose isn't the best deal. The Noctua fans in that price range are a better buy, especially if you don't care about colors.
 

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1) Are there any compatibility issues with the selected components?
Motherboard are not yet supported unless you upgrade it's bios by using skylake cpu. Its a risk, don't do it. And you don't need the TP-link network adapter, its already has one build in the motherboard. Same for sound card, use the onboard first, if its not good enough, you can upgrade it anytime.
2) Can I save some money from certain parts while keeping the same performance?
I will try give better build later
3) What kind of UPS should I buy to protect the system?
UPS is not mainly to protect the system. Stabilizer did. UPS is more like power buck up, but reputable brand has stabilizer build in. Then again reputable brand is expensive
4) I am planning on buying the parts from Europe since I live there. Will it be cheaper to order them from the US? (I doubt)
US is a heaven for pc part. I live in Asia and envied all the time the US price tags. When they are on promotion, the price is unbelievable cheap
5) Will prices fall over the next 5 months?
It always does. Ryzen AMD has arrive, it should move the price.

1) I selected the Intel core i7-7700K because I found that the price gap between the i7-6700 or the i7-7700 was not that big
Yeah but the motherboard you chose cannot even do overclock, so its just wasting money. i7-7700 came with standard heatsink while i7-7700K doesn't, it should save at least $10 (yeah i know its not great heatsink, but it will do its basic job done)
2) I don't care a single bit about colors and stuff like that
same here
3) I did not choose an external hard drive or a mouse because I already have one
internal hard drive is recommended as the SSD still more expensive for storage. But its fine if you already have external HDD
4) I am planning on building this computer over the summer, and my budget will be around 1400€ (or 1491.77$)

Here is my first suggestion:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($295.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($99.97 @ Jet)
Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($379.00 @ Jet)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case ($27.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.90 @ B&H)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($92.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: Acer G257HU smidpx 25.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor ($254.99 @ Jet)
Keyboard: Redragon Karura K502 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($33.26 @ Amazon)
Total: $1449.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-13 21:45 EDT-0400

Ok, for my 1st suggstion its an i7 with GTX 1070 and samsung 960 evo. The 960 evo has more than 2x the speed of standard SSD, its worth it when you can afford it. It will safe your time a lot in loading and writing data. Your life is more precious than money , don't you agree?. This build should not need any upgrade until the end of GTX 1070 and should be able to cope with new gpu you can throw in the future as long as 620W psu can manage it.

Next is the 2nd choice. Its uses the new but cheapest AMD ryzen 1700. What makes it interesting is that i7 has 4 core 8 thread when this ryzen has 8 core 16 thread. Well, its the latest cpu from AMD after the long wait. For your information, more and more game will adapt using more thread. That is why "i5 killer" game was created recently since i5 only has 4 thread. i7 still a safe bet, but why not take a risk with something almost double the thread with only few dollar difference.
Here are 2nd choice:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($328.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($99.97 @ Jet)
Storage: Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($379.00 @ Jet)
Case: BitFenix Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case ($27.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.90 @ B&H)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($92.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: Acer G257HU smidpx 25.0" 2560x1440 60Hz Monitor ($254.99 @ Jet)
Keyboard: Redragon Karura K502 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($33.26 @ Amazon)
Total: $1505.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-13 22:10 EDT-0400

You can look the rough comparison between i7 and ryzen 1700 in below link
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/3887vs3917

Its up to you
Good luck
 

Archmad

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Thanks guys for all the suggestions and tips.
Now I have some follow up questions.
1) Can you suggest a motherboard that would fit this build?
2) @schaft Can you recommend a stabiliser? How can I choose the correct one?

@ Chugalug_ When I build this computer I will be in the Netherlands so I suppose I will be able to use Komplett. Can you give me a link to it because I couldn't find it with a google search.

Thanks guys
 
This phrase: "UPS is not mainly to protect the system. Stabilizer did. UPS is more like power buck up, but reputable brand has stabilizer build in. Then again reputable brand is expensive" doesn't make any sense to me. All decent UPSes will be perfectly fine to uphold any spikes you may experience as long as you USE A SURGE PROTECTOR!
This is a must nowadays, a stabilizer is an absolutely pointless investment, you just need a surge protector and a good quality UPS and you're set generally.
Regardless, in this scenario you absolutely do not need a UPS or stabilizer of any sort, that's only for critical workflow application where a dropout can mean losing hours of crucial work or projects, and you need that UPS to keep you going for a few minutes to save everything.

Don't bother investing in any of this stuff.

Here's the link to komplett, i'll put together a list in a bit, gotta go do some stuff. ;)
https://www.komplett.no/
 

Archmad

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So, I modified my parts list a bit and this is what I have ( https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qHZQxY ). I thought the i7 was an overkill so I changed to the i5 7600K to save off some money. If I understand correctly, to avoid the compatibility issue with the mother board I will either have to go to a slower processor (i5 6600K) or to a better motherboard. Is that correct? And is updating the BIOS so difficult?

On komplett unfortunately I couldn't find some of the components and in general the prices were higher. I think it is worth it to order it from the US and pay something extra for shipping.

Any feedback is appreciated.

 
I recommend saving up to 13.5k and getting this 1070 144hz build: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/mxgzjc
But keep in mind I STRONGLY recommend you get the above build, getting this GPU if you can instead of the FE, it costs 150 more but cools much better: https://www.komplett.no/product/892078/datautstyr/pc-komponenter/skjermkort/pci-express/gainward-geforce-gtx-1070-phoenix#

If you can't save up to that, get this: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/xV442R
 
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Archmad

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I am afraid that this build is too expensive for me. If I made the conversion between krone and euro correctly, the cheapest build costs around 1700€. I would like to spend a maximum of 1500€ on this build.

Thanks for the assistance