UPDATED First Time Build! (Video Editing PC)

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Yesterday I posted and asked if my potential setup was going to be sufficient for an exceptional video editing workstation that would last 10+ years. I got some great advice, but I have conflicting advice, as well. Here is my updated build with all things considered:


    1) AMD RYZEN 7 1800X 8-Core 3.6 GHz (4.0 GHz Turbo) CPU
    2) BIOSTAR X370GT5 AM4 AMD X370 ATX Motherboard
    3) CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2666
    4) ASUS GeForce GTX 1080 8GB ROG STRIX OC Edition Graphics Card
    5) Crucial MX300 2TB SATA 2.5 Inch Internal Solid State Drive
    6) Two WD Black 2TB Performance Desktop Hard Disk Drives
    7) CORSAIR RMx Series RM750X 750W 80 PLUS GOLD PSU
    8) Corsair H110i CPU water cooling system


Okay, so another question: I'm going to run Premiere Pro, Nuendo 6, and do a LOT of rendering in up to 4K resolution on this, primarily 1080P anamorphic. I was planning on using Windows 10. Is that an efficient OS for this? Others say it is just fine, but I'm curious.

Lastly, I'm boxing everything up in a Thermaltake Core P3 Snow ATX Open Frame Panoramic Viewing Tt LCS Certified Gaming Computer Case (I copy and pasted all this from Newegg; I don't know what is important for you guys to know).

Does everything look good...?

Thank you so much,

Brandon
 
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The Biostar board is probably fine. If you have a project right now that needs to be done, then I agree it's probably the best way forward. Just to clarify, it will have no impact on CPU performance whatsoever, my only concern is RAM compatibility and whether Ryzen gets tuned in future through BIOS updates. If it comes to it you can always return set of RAM and exchange for something else.

While the guaranteed compatibility of the Intel platform is tempting, in your situation, particularly given that you're looking to invest in a long-term viable video editing machine, the 8 core really does make sense. It's worth addressing or working through any potential compatibility issues of the newer platform IMHO.

Go with the Biostar and see...
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I noticed right before you asked I forgot to include that! I updated the question, but the Corsair H110i water cooler. Thank you for asking.
 
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No one encouraged you to go a Ryzen 1700 and pop an OC on there for your a video editing build? That would involve changing just about the entire build, so lots of work. I suppose you could make an argument to stick with the tried-and-true Intel platform, but the 8 core 16 thread Ryzen 1700 is going to be far superior for many editing and rendering tasks than any quad core, even one clocked as high as the 7700K.

Certainly if I was building an editing rig on a budget right now, a Ryzen CPU + Mobo would be the first things on my shopping list.
 
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Yes, everyone has said the same thing. I'm nervous about making that jump, but if everyone is suggesting it, then that's what i'll do. I'll update this here again.
 
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Updated with the Ryzen 1800x CPU and the associated MoBo. The cooling system didn't change as it is already AM4 compatible. Looking better? Thanks again for the help.

 
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Couple of things:

1) Are you going to overclock? If so, save yourself $180 and pick up the Ryzen 1700. It'll OC just as well, or almost as well as the 1800X, they're functionally identical CPUs apart from frequencies, which is equalised once you overclock.

2) Personal things, but I'm not big on Biostar motherboards. That's just anecdotal and others may have an entirely different perspective, so take it for what it's worth, but for a brad new platform like this I'd pick something that is going to ship a lot more units and is thus more likely to have fixes and issues addressed.

3) Related to #2 -> that board doesn't have a RAM compatibility or QVL list. Ryzen seems to like fast RAM, but it also seems extremely fussy about RAM. That's not surprisingly given how new the platform and memory controllers are, and how little time mobo manufacturer's had to optimise hardware. However, it does mean it's a good idea to look specifically at the QVL list.
For example, the Asus Prime X370-Pro is available, selling well, and a RAM QVL list is available on the website.

4) Related to #3 above -> if you have trouble finding a qualified 64GB kit (or it costs you a fortune), you might be better off dropping to 32GB RAM (2x16GB)... that's should be plenty even for high end video editing and there should be plenty of fast options available.

5) Are you intending to run a second GPU in future? Because 750W PSU is total overkill for your current build. You could actually run that rig just fine with a 450W PSU, though a good 550W unit would be recommended.
 
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Thank you very much. My responses:

1) Yes, I will almost certainly be overclocking, so I'll go with the 1700
2/3) The Asus Prime X370-Pro looks great, but where can I find that? Everywhere seems to be out of stock of every x370 I look for. I found a MSI X370 XPOWER MoBo that I can put on backorder, but I don't even know how to check the requirements that you listed, or what they mean.
4) I'd really rather have the power of a 64GB kit than sacrifice for ease of access to a good MoBo.
5) Nope, I didn't realize it would be overkill. I'll lower to a 550W.
 
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Right. I hadn't realised how bad stock levels were on the Ryzen gear. I mis-read the PCPartpicker list and though the Asus Prime was in-stock at Amazon... you're right, it's not!

Are you looking to build right away? Probably the best motherboard I could find was the MSI Titanium at Newegg: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144016&cm_re=x370_motherboard-_-13-144-016-_-Product
But it's $300, still a 7-14 lead time, much more than you really need to spend, and I can't find a QVL list for RAM either. While it's probably going to work well, you are taking a risk there, particularly with a high speed 4x16GB kit.

If you are prepared to put the Asus Prime on back order, here's the RAM QVL list I was referring to: http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/PRIME_X370-PRO/PRIME_X370_PRO_Memory_QVL.pdf?_ga=1.39646819.139019751.1464317467
Choose your RAM kit from one of the ones listed there (try to pick a kit that will run at 2666 on Ryzen if you can). But it might be hard to find a match between what's in the list and what's actually available.
Maybe I'm overfunctioning on RAM, that's entirely possible. It's just that 4x16GB compatibility is finicky at the moment. And RAM speed seems to matter with Ryzen. So it might be worth spending some time on research to find a fast kit that will work... if you can!
 
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Hmmm... Tricky. I am looking to build right away. I'm in the middle of a large project only to find that my workstation cannot even multitask well enough to render with any other programs running (obviously an issue since I have to encrypt the data during export with an encoder.)

Do you think the Biostar is a viable risk? It looks like it will match everything I need (from what I can tell) for what I consider a reasonable price, plus it's in stock. I do not know much about computers at all (you can obviously tell) and I really just need something that will handle one very purpose driven task: efficient video content productions. There will be nothing else on this workstation besides my company software.

On another note, I really want this computer to be built towards longevity, so if I have to keep looking, I will.
 
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The Biostar board is probably fine. If you have a project right now that needs to be done, then I agree it's probably the best way forward. Just to clarify, it will have no impact on CPU performance whatsoever, my only concern is RAM compatibility and whether Ryzen gets tuned in future through BIOS updates. If it comes to it you can always return set of RAM and exchange for something else.

While the guaranteed compatibility of the Intel platform is tempting, in your situation, particularly given that you're looking to invest in a long-term viable video editing machine, the 8 core really does make sense. It's worth addressing or working through any potential compatibility issues of the newer platform IMHO.

Go with the Biostar and see how you go! Let us know?
 
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Absolutely will. Hey well thank you very much for your help, I'll see what I can do with this machine and if it gives me any problems!

Best regards!
 
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UPDATE: So I built the computer, and so far, this thing works like a dream. It literally renders video faster than real time, and that is amazing. So far, I've done some stress testing to see what it can do, and it can run a benchmark test while maxed and a VBR- 2 pass 4k video render simultaneously, and it still performs to what is, in my mind, a miraculous standard. Thank you guys so much for your help.

I was told to watch out for compatibility issues after the first month, is this accurate? Before I get super excited, I don't want to be surprised when it decides to explode one day or something...
 
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