PC Often stuck at Splash screen - Asus M5 A97 R2.0

DvdB86

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Hello all,

Hopefully the mainboard forum is the right place for this.... but as you see I'm still searching myself for the exact problem. I would like to ask your aid with some PC problems. At the moment I am experiencing a frequent problem with my PC during boot. It's often stuck at the BIOS Splash screen, but not always..escpecially not after a power surge.

SPECS:
MB: Asus M5 A97 R2.0
RAM: 4x8 GB Corsair Vengeance - 1600 MHz DDR3
CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.00GHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760
OS: Windows 7 64bit Ultimate NL (Up to date - besides language packs)

This PC booted earlier from a 80GB SATA disk, an oldie - no SSD. I just used it for a while, but wanted to replace it. At this point, I already encountered a strange problem in which the splash screen was sometimes stuck, or just 'hanging' for a very long time before continuing to boot.

So my initial thoughts were that the old HDD was dying. I replaced it with a 240 Kingston V300 SSD, something I already had in mind to do for a while. So I replaced it, used EaseUs Backup to clone it and went on with my work.

Yet I found out very quickly that this had not helped me with the boot problem, but that it just made it worse. Let me make a list of the issues:

Hanging splash screen occurs mostly at a reboot. And not too often after a power cycle. So when I disconnect the power cord, it works as it should be.
Whenever I disconnect all devices except the SSD it seems to work.
Whenever all SATA devices are connected, and it DOES start, it does so very slowly. -- booting takes about 1,5 minutes, which is not what it should be.

And the list of counter measures I've tried that did not work so far:

Update all drivers in Windows
Update/Flash SSD Firmware
Update/Flash BIOS
I encountered that I did not yet boot from my SSD, but from my D: disk. I fixed this through recovery
Tried booting with as many parts disconnected ; as bare as possible. All the parts that I have disconnected:
Sharkoon USB 3.0 front panel
DVD-RW
All RAM modules (just booting with one - and tried some new combi's)
USB Front panel that came with the case
Temperatures are fine
I would try booting without GPU, CPU and MB if that was possible....
Checken all the other harddsisks (even though I disconnected them) and they were fine.
Check Bios if AHCI is enabled
Check the SATA port sequence ; is 1 the boot disk etc

At first I thought this might be because I cloned my HDD to SSD, but in that case I would not get stuck at times in the BIOS splash, but I would have a 100% failure rate on booting.

In the 50/50 case I get to boot succesfully and once I am in Windows, it seems to run smooth enough.

So I have a lot of questions that keep me wondering. What might be the cause of this? Could this be a dying PSU? Do I overlook something?

Please ask me if I need to post more information or try to expand on what I tell here.

Thanks in advance for anyone taking the time for reading this :)
 
Solution
After a while fiddling around with stuff, I looked a Molex to SATA cable. Looks great, but I believe it wasn't fully connected. To I squeezed it as tight as I could and have been booting solidly for a while now.

So...solved I gues....

Thanks everyone!

DvdB86

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Update from myself ; I cleared the CMOS (with the jumpers) and had to re-enter the BIOS. Changed back what I changed - with a less Quiet configuration, just for testing.

This sadly did not work :(

I'm beginning to run out of ideas. Upgrading a pc and only run into problems that I cannot solve is frustrating.

Is there any way to test my hardware? Software that run a serious diagnosis?
 
If its hanging on the post screen its having probs reading something like a hdd.

Which can mean one or the others are faulty

Did you try another port or cable??

Disable the logo so you can see what it's doing

Are there any USB devices / card readers / printers connected with card readers connected?? With a memory card in it?

If there is unplug them / remove the memory card

 

DvdB86

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@Paul NZ
I already tried booting with different SATA cables, ports and without any other disk than just the main drive (which I replaced). I don't think I used all possible solutions yet, but surely enough to rule out it's any of the hard disks. Why? Because the strange hanging still occurs when I only connect my SSD or my DVD on different ports....

Disabling the splash screen is a good idea. How stupid of me, but I haven't tried it yet.

I tried with all cards, panels etc removed :)

@Calvin7
These are the RAM modules:
https://azerty.nl/product/corsair/627379/vengeance-pro-series-geheugen-32-gb--4-x-8-gb
or on the site you picked:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233547&cm_re=CMY32GX3M4A1600C9-_-20-233-547-_-Product

 

DvdB86

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I actually don't really think so. It occurs before the OS get's probed. What is your theory to suggest a reinstall?

Small update. Today I tried to swap around my SATA cables on more time...to double check. Yet...nothing.

But something did happen. I went into the bios to disable the splash screen. It hasn't frozen as it did before, but at times the screen just stayes completely black. Not 'dead black' like a turned off screen, but just empty. So this fuels my PSU or GPU theory.

The GTX I have installed is an older one, not really potent but it was a heavyweight back in the day. So was the PSU; that one is even older. One of them might be failing; the GPU gets a direct line from the PSU - can't recall how to name that certain connector. Should the PSU be unable to gather enough power to keep booting, the screen would stay blank too. So the GPU that is not starting properly can be THE problem, or A problem caused by a bad PSU.

And besides that; it all boots up perfectly after a power surge..

But I am not having any spare GPU's lying around at the offcie, but I will try it out later. And if I know more, i'll let you guys know!

 

DvdB86

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It's been a while. But an updated from my side. Hopefully this means this post get's upped.

I found an old videocard lying around and replaced it. It's an old one, much more low power than the other one. A Nividia Geforce GT 430 to be exact.

Right now the problem is still there, although a little less frequent. But when it occurs; it seems to probe the video card, because before the MB splash I get to see a piece of text on my screen that identitfies the GPU and it's RAM.

So...this can mean an awful lot of things, am I right?
 

DvdB86

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After a while fiddling around with stuff, I looked a Molex to SATA cable. Looks great, but I believe it wasn't fully connected. To I squeezed it as tight as I could and have been booting solidly for a while now.

So...solved I gues....

Thanks everyone!
 
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