Backup and Partial SSD Migration

LaCalia · Mar 17, 2017

Hello everyone!

I'm finally making the upgrade to SSD! Hoorah!

I currently have 2x1TB HDDs and the SSD I plan to move to is the Intel 512GB 600p

Before I do anything though I am also buying this HDD as a backup drive.

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9BN4J27907

I'm not totally sure what SAS12Gb/s is to be totally honest...

I just wanna make sure I won't have any compatibility issues.

My next question is regarding the migration, I don't want to move it all.

I would like to move Win10 obviously, & many programs, but keep what won't fit.

How could I accomplish this? I have about 600GB used on my C: drive

I'll probably end up only wanting to move 300GB over to SSD

Thanks for reading! I look forward to hearing from you!

geofelt · Mar 17, 2017

Two suggestions:

1. Buy a Samsung 500gb ssd.
Samsung has an easy to use free ssd migration utility like Intel. It is a C drive mover, not a clone. It has an option to exclude large folders from the move.
Intel uses a clone utility which is a bit for bit transfer which may not work for you as a partial mover.

2. SAS is a different interface from sata and is not likely to work in a non server environment.
I suggest you look at WD which seems to be more reliable.
Here is a nice article on the differences:
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Understanding-the-WD-Rainbow-674/

LaCalia · Mar 17, 2017

geofelt :

Yeah, I'm not buying a Samsung. I'm set on the 600p. Thanks for the suggestion though!

And WD is a little out of my price range. How does this one look? Any good?

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822179009

Thanks again for your super speedy response!

ArtPog · Mar 17, 2017

LaCalia:
1. First of all, I would agree with geofelt that a HDD containing the usual SATA interface would serve you well as a backup drive. In terms of disk-space capacity & make/model that's entirely a personal choice. Frankly, as far as I'm concerned there's hardly a dime's worth of difference among the various brands & models in terms of real-life speed & durability when the drive is used for backups and general storage. I realize many users disagree with my point-of-view; so be it.

2. But what I really wanted to convey to you is the following in the event you're unaware of this situation...
Since you intend to purchase a rather large-capacity HDD and intend to use that drive for backups (and probably other storage uses), I would suppose you would plan to clone the contents of your boot drive, i.e., the Intel 512 GB SSD over to a partition you created on the HDD. If that's one of your intentions you should be aware of the following (in case you're not)...

3. As you probably know you would need to use the GPT-partitioning scheme on the HDD in order for the system to detect the total disk-space capacity > 2 TB of the HDD. Simple enough.

But a problem arises if you MBR-partition your SSD if you plan (for comprehensive backup purposes) to clone the contents of that SSD to a partition you create on any HDD > 2 TB, e.g., a 4 TB or 6 TB or larger HDD. Even if you have GPT-partitioned the HDD, the disk-cloning operation will also clone the partitioning scheme of the source drive along with its contents. So if the source drive has been MBR-partitioned that partitioning scheme will be carried along to the destination drive along with its contents.

I'm only pointing this out in case you are considering (or perhaps will later consider) cloning the contents of your boot drive to one of your larger secondary HDDs > 2 TB. So as a precautionary move it's probably a wise undertaking to GPT-partition the 512 GB SSD at the outset before installing the OS.

LaCalia · Mar 23, 2017

ArtPog :

LaCalia:
1. First of all, I would agree with geofelt that a HDD containing the usual SATA interface would serve you well as a backup drive. In terms of disk-space capacity & make/model that's entirely a personal choice. Frankly, as far as I'm concerned there's hardly a dime's worth of difference among the various brands & models in terms of real-life speed & durability when the drive is used for backups and general storage. I realize many users disagree with my point-of-view; so be it.

2. But what I really wanted to convey to you is the following in the event you're unaware of this situation...
Since you intend to purchase a rather large-capacity HDD and intend to use that drive for backups (and probably other storage uses), I would suppose you would plan to clone the contents of your boot drive, i.e., the Intel 512 GB SSD over to a partition you created on the HDD. If that's one of your intentions you should be aware of the following (in case you're not)...

3. As you probably know you would need to use the GPT-partitioning scheme on the HDD in order for the system to detect the total disk-space capacity > 2 TB of the HDD. Simple enough.

But a problem arises if you MBR-partition your SSD if you plan (for comprehensive backup purposes) to clone the contents of that SSD to a partition you create on any HDD > 2 TB, e.g., a 4 TB or 6 TB or larger HDD. Even if you have GPT-partitioned the HDD, the disk-cloning operation will also clone the partitioning scheme of the source drive along with its contents. So if the source drive has been MBR-partitioned that partitioning scheme will be carried along to the destination drive along with its contents.

I'm only pointing this out in case you are considering (or perhaps will later consider) cloning the contents of your boot drive to one of your larger secondary HDDs > 2 TB. So as a precautionary move it's probably a wise undertaking to GPT-partition the 512 GB SSD at the outset before installing the OS.

Wow, thanks! I actually didn't know any of that. What is the difference between MBR and GPT and why would I want to use one or the other? I probably won't be partitioning my SSD anyways, but it would certainly be nice to know. Thanks!

ArtPog · Mar 23, 2017

It certainly "would be nice" to know the differences between the two partitioning schemes. There's an awful lot of good solid info on the net that goes into the differences between the two partitioning schemes. So do yourself a favor and use your friend Google to learn about these partitioning schemes.

LaCalia · Mar 24, 2017

ArtPog :

Will do, thanks again for your help!

LaCalia · Mar 24, 2017

So the parts have arrived and have been installed. Unfortunately, neither of them are showing up. Any ideas?

EDIT: Starting new thread

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