How much would this build sell and is this new build good?

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I'd like to sell an old build for a new build.
Old one:
MSI GTX 760
AsRock Motherboard
i7 4790k
Watercooled CPU
Fans
1TB hard drive
Power supply
8 GB ram
Metal NZXT case

I think this build will sell for 400$.

Now, my new build:
GTX 1080: 500$
Fractal Design R5: 100$
I7 7700k: 320
Motherboard: 120$
Ram: 100$
750w power supply: 80$
SSD 120GB: 90$
HDD: 50$
Fans: 50$

However, I am debating one thing.

Should I water cool? If I would, it would the the Corsair ones as it's much, much cheaper and I really don't want to spend that much money.

If I were to watercool, it would not be right away. And no custom loops like EKWB, I am 13 and while I could build one I don't want to spend that much money and just want the simple benefits of watercooling. In this case, only reliability.

Is there anything else I could change? No overclocking for me, I just want to have fun at 60+ FPS on the Witcher 3, Skyrim, For Honor, and similar games at max settings 1080p-2k.

Maybe, if my PC doesn't sell I could keep my 4790k?

Also, 1080 ti, or stick with the 1080? Or get a 1070?

And lastly, maybe I need a new motherboard? That isn't 120$, but 220$? I'm looking at the ASUS ones.

Thanks!







 
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Recommending a 1080 Ti for 1080p 60+fps for this poor kid...

1080 Ti is for 4k gaming, if you're only doing 1080p get an RX 480 or GTX 1060 6GB and save yourself about $400... Unless you hate money. They will both give you average 60fps+ on most 1080p games max setting, but if you really want to go overkill i'd get a 1070 at most. That will drive anything at 1080p at 60fps min. A 1080 Ti is an absolute waste of money at 1080p, unless you're planning an imminent upgrade to a 4k monitor.

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Also, my birthday is coming up in August and I can get some more stuff.
I'm thinking right now get the 1080 , the i7 7700k, a nice motherboard, SSD, good power supply, good RAM, and a good case but keep it air flowed.
Then, on my birthday buy watercooling and a second 1080.
 
selling used hardware is based on market value, in this case refurbished prices when available and ebay sales prices.
when buying something I compare it to last 10 sales average price with high and low ranges.

MSI GTX 760 (failed to mention 2gb or 4gb) so I based it on 3GB/4GB sales low 39, high 120, average : $76
AsRock Motherboard (no model & Make, no price possible)
i7 4790k (new 279.99) , EBay: low 230, high 302, average $270
Watercooled CPU (no model & Make, no price possible)
Fans (no value)
1TB hard drive (no model & Make, no price possible)
Power supply (no model & Make, no price possible)
8 GB ram (no model & Make, no price possible)
Metal NZXT case (no model & Make, no price possible)

Just as a reference of whole computer selling prices, like the one below, many fail to sell as a whole for a number of reasons, and usually get more out of the components than a whole.

As for water cooling versus air, it matter little both have been proven when chosen properly. both can do the job equally.
Corsair, Enermax, Kraken to name a few of the brand out there... will efficiently water cool your system

Can you keep a 4790K and run AAA games, sure, get your ram to 32GB, and slap a 1080/1080ti on it, voila. (assuming you have an ssd) so yes you can..

new 4th gen motherboard for intel are no longer being made a very long time ago, you may find new old stock in some stores like microcenter, but for the price of such boards, your better off to just upgrade to 6th , 7th Intel or wait until the new R5 from AMD, come out.

 

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So I should sell my parts separately you say?

There are so many ways to go, it's just getting confusing.
I'll right them down and could you please tell me which would be best?
Thanks :)

i7 4790k (I already have it, don't sell it but keep it.)
Change out to RX480
Change out to GTX 1080
Change out to GTX 1080 TI

Buy new motherboard and i7 7700k.
RX 480
GTX 1080
GTX 1080 TI

And would you recommend me get SLI, or just stick to one powerful card?
 

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Really? No SLI?

Good for me. Less money spent, less heat!

I guess I'll go for a GTX 1080ti, i7 7700k, a decent motherboard, and the others.

Later watercool the CPU, and maybe the GPU.

Maybe wait for AMD Vega? And then use an AMD CPU for the more stable frames?

Also, do LG make good monitors? There's a 29 inch 2560x1080 for 300$ I like.
 

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Recommending a 1080 Ti for 1080p 60+fps for this poor kid...

1080 Ti is for 4k gaming, if you're only doing 1080p get an RX 480 or GTX 1060 6GB and save yourself about $400... Unless you hate money. They will both give you average 60fps+ on most 1080p games max setting, but if you really want to go overkill i'd get a 1070 at most. That will drive anything at 1080p at 60fps min. A 1080 Ti is an absolute waste of money at 1080p, unless you're planning an imminent upgrade to a 4k monitor.
 
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Thanks,
I will run 2560x1080 LG gaming monitor.
So for me, either 1080, 1080 ti, or AMD Vega.
As I see it now, SLI isn't worth it so I'll stick to one card only. And having a powerful card is great, like the 1080ti for future proofing.

But then again, the 1080 for 500$ is an enticing choice.
 

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I wouldn't advise to try and "future-proof" the GPU. The money you will spend on a top-of-the-line 4k resolution GPU today to future-proof 1080p is better spent buying the GPU you need today and then getting the GPU you need tomorrow later. If you absolutely needed to future-proof 1080p gaming, i'd go for a 1070 at most, but like I said, even that is overkill.
 

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Thank you!
I love this forum, people are really helpful.

I'm not doing 1080, but 2560x1080. My budget for a monitor is 350$, 400 at most.

Since the 1080 got a huge price drop, I think it's worth buying it. 500$ compared to the 700$ 1080ti, and then when the 1280 comes out I can buy that.

I currently have an i7 4790k, but I am unhappy with my motherboard. It's small, doesn't have on board Wifi, and just gives me a bad feeling.

Am I better off buying a new motherboard for 50$ or so (they're cheap now since they don't make them) and keep the 4790k, or just buy a whole new 7700k setup?

I could either sell the one I have right now, and buy a newer one or stick with the old one.