Is XFX 650W Black Edition XTR a good buy?

its a tier 2 PSU so well made here is the PSU list
PSU Tier list tier 1-2 are good for gaming
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

I would recommend an EVGA SuperNova Gold G2 / GS / GQ, Platinum P2 / PS, or Titanium T2 or a Seasonic M12-II Evo or S12-II

GOOD PSU EVGA is a B2, G2, P2, GS, PS, or T2. Avoid the EVGA B1 and G1 series

thing is last I looked at XFX psu's I seen there now not sold anywhere but amazon and super biz ??? places like newegg don't carry them anymore ???

all most like they were all pulled from the mainstream market ?? got to wonder why ..

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#m=39&sort=a9&page=1


I like them evga units like there G2's and they go on sale with a nice rebate as well and can be had at a great price 850w g2 for 119 $ and a 10 year evga warrantee

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LCfp99/evga-power-supply-220g20850xr

It's a good choice.

The XFX Black edition are great PSUs as are the XTR (way better than the Seasonic S12/M12II or the EVGA GQ)

As for availability, I've seen XFX PSUs entering and leaving regularly. Seems like it's whether they got a container available for newegg or not^^

''As for availability, I've seen XFX PSUs entering and leaving regularly. Seems like it's whether they got a container available for newegg or not^^''

must be on that super slow boat from china then ???

look at the price history for a year ??

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9G7wrH/xfx-power-supply-p1650bbefx?history_days=365

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NYyFf7/xfx-power-supply-p1650gts3x?history_days=365

does it take that long to get one over here ??? ya, somthings up pulled from market and amazon is selling off any old stock of maybe a discontinued items from XFX or there just got out of the PSU business

I'd be suspect over that alone it maybe a good unit and I think its based on the seasonic X series platform , thing is what if 2 years from now you got to go RMA with XFX on a PSU that as of today looks to be 1 good year discontinued or just no longer available ? and you get a too bad so sad we don't do PSU's anymore heres a coupon towards a fine XFX product ??

??? , I don't know ?? I'd have to pass for something still mainstream and readily available today

You don't know how and when newegg is ordering and what they're paying.
Might be newegg only orders stock with heavy discounts so XFX only sells PSUs to them when they got too big of a stock themselves.
I mean by the same logic applied you wouldn't buy Super Flower in my country as they're sometimes in stock but mostly aren't @amazon.

The XTR is a slightly modified Seasonic G with reworked cooling.
It's not discontinued to my knowledge and it's stable priced with many sellers, including those I know not having a big stock of anything.

TL;DR judging from the habits on one merchant you can't really make any valid conclusions

''The XFX Black edition are great PSUs as are the XTR (way better than the Seasonic S12/M12II or the EVGA GQ''

Based off the same Seasonic platform as the TS 650
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=434

''The XFX TS 650 is based off of the Seasonic S12G platform''

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=426

looks like you just get near the same thing


''TL;DR judging from the habits on one merchant you can't really make any valid conclusions ''

then why now really ony one merchant selling them ??? pretty much just amazon . not newegg, not tiger, not anyone ????? see ??? selling off old stock and whats left over clogging space in there warehouses is all I see and then there gone no reorders and that over a good year

sorry , but I'd have to go with a more trusted company like evga or a branded seasonic and so forth

XFXs units base on:
XTR --> Seasonic G (https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/XFX/XTR650/)
TS Gold --> S12G
TS Bronze --> S12II
Pro/Core --> S12(II), Black Editions are a exception.

If you trust a Seasonic​ G more than a XFX XTR that's your decision. They are made in the same factory though.
Personally I prefer the XFX as they tend to be a bit quieter than the Seasonic. (For example the XFX with its semi-passive cooling compared to the Seasonic G)
My old XFX Pro 650 is running for over 7 years now without any issues. Of course i don't claim my unit to be the archetype for all units but generally they're known Seasonic quality.

I can't tell you why only 1 merchant in the US sells them right now. Can have a various number of reasons. Seems to majorly apply to the US though.

In Austria & Germany over 15 different merchants have the XTR 650W in stock, 10 others can order it within 2 weeks. Some of them are big, some of them are regional some of them are local.
Price varies in a range of 20€ over the past 2 years.

Doesn't look like a discontinued series to me.

Claiming XFX is not a trusted company - no comment. That's sort of a ridiculous claim.
With the same level of argument i could argue that one shouldn't buy EVGA PSUs since some of their very trusted G2s have exploded in the past months.

Seems like you agree then on the choice.

???? thing I don't like is why XFX is not selling any units out side of amazon ?? why I say go with the branded seasonic . seems like xfx is out of the psu business and just selling off stock through amazon as I said above if its a heck of a deal maybe

just only selling through amazon for the past year and no where else ?? [maybe a few at like super biz , who ever they are ?? ]
thing is youi could get a evga unit and have evga with there well known service backing it up for the same money ??

got to be more reason for like a store as newegg or whoever not selling xfx psu's anymore for a good year ?? don't take that long to order and get stock in ???

maybe there getting too many returns sent back and had to drop them ???? if they were solid good sellers newegg and the rest would be selling them still today ??

maybe lost there contract with seasonic ???

one more thing is I seen blackbird say the new g series and see there maybe a older g series build ??? so is it the older build or the newer build g platform ??

how he got it worded ??

''Yes sir, this is an upgraded G-550 unit. ''

''Since everything I complained about with the G-550 has been improved on,''

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=348

so is it a upgraded platform from what was being used when he did the 550 review ?? just a few thing I got doubt on and when in doubt just time to move on to something that don't

I guess in the end do what YOU think is best and go with that , your not buying for me him or the guy down the road ..

for 10 buck less after a rebate and have this there latest G3 ?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438094&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=


or 99 bucks the well known solid and proven G2 ?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438054&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

readily available for all retailers and backed by EVGA's excellent service and warrantee support ??

kinda puts the xfx in the waste basket to me

[opinion ]

anyway good luck

The G2 is actually old stock as it was superseded by the G3. But it's a great unit as well.
Honestly in that price class for 99/100 users it makes little to no difference if you get one or another. There are differences between a Seasonic and a Super Flower unit but for most of those you need professional testing equipment and/or to open the PSU and take a look inside.
So usually my suggestion is to look at what you need and want (connectors, noise, size, optics) and then go with the cheapest of the mostly 3-4 units that qualify. If a XFX XTR is 79.90 and the EVGA G2 is 82.99 - why pay 3$ extra? However if you find a Corsair RMx for 76.90 - why not just go with that? Makes no sense paying extra for something that provides no value to you.

As for junkymonkeys thoughts:
If there would be a too high return rate then it would affect Seasonic units as well. The PSU-part is identical, only differs in box, fan and fancontroller. While their older models had some coil whine issues they lasted long and still do. So high return rate is most likely not an issue.
Also you gotta remember that people don't always buy what's good. Like...The amount of people recommending units because they're from Corsair or EVGA. Yes, there are some very good units by Corsair & EVGA, but looking at the white series or the VS, this is not the case.
As for solid good sellers I again say what I said before: you don't know the contracts behind it. You don't know how much discount XFX is giving to resellers. You don't know the contracts XFX got with Seasonic - maybe they're not allowed to sell in North America anymore through resellers as Seasonic wants to build up market shares. Maybe they just dropped the NA market, like Gainward isn't selling in NA or AU as well, only Europe & Asia but those are some pretty good cards.
If they disbanded the PSU line after only 7-8 years and also releasing the XT we'd probably know.
Might also be that they are phasing out some lines since Seasonic dropped their new PRIME line-up and are waiting for OEM units to rebrand.
There are just too many possibilities that provide a reasonable explanation for XFX not providing the US with PSUs in the last couple of months.


Where are you buying from if I may ask?
There might be some other PSU there for a good price you've overlooked or didn't know about and/or isn't listed in the by now old, outdated and sometimes painfully wrong PSU Tier list.

seems a XFX rep guy here at toms aks him about the status of there PSU's in your country like warrantee / rma service , availability , and all that you need to know about it ??

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3350200/xfx-r7800-series-working.html

send him a private message and any of your concerns

http://www.tomshardware.com/community/profile-1735162.htm