2k Edit/Grading Workstation Build

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noctuo

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hello guys,

I'm trying to build a new workstation, mainly to work with FullHD movies and 2k (ARRIRAW 2k). Editing and grading will be done in DaVinci Resolve. I also work with After Effects and a bit of 3ds Max (And vray). My current budget is limited and I'm looking for an option that I can upgrade in the future (both GPU and CPU) and make 4K editing.

I would like to know what you think of this setup.

Supermicro MBD-X10DRG-Q
2x Intel Xeon E5-2620 V4 2.1GHz 8-Core Processor
2x GTX 1080ti
Noctua i4 CPU Cooler for Intel Xeon NH-U12DXi4
Corsair AX1500i 1500W 8
Lian Li d-8000
Kingston 64GB (8 x 8GB) Registered DDR4-2133 Memory
Supermicro AOC-TBT-DSL5320 // (thunderbolt adapter)
SAMSUNG 960 PRO M.2 512GB NVMe // (I could not find if the boot is possible on this motherboard with Nvme)
2xWD 1TB Blue SATA III 2.5 "Internal SSD
M.2 to PCIe Adapter: M2P4A
Cooler Master Sleeve Bearing 120mm Silent Fan // (how many fans for this chassis?)
WD 3TB Network HDD Retail Kit (8-Pack, WD30EFRX, Red) (For RAID 10 and backup)
Monitor LG Digital Cinema 31MU97-B 31
Blackmagic Design DeckLink 4K Pro 12G-SDI


Sorry for my bad English.
 
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Mikel_4

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    ■ Usually 4K movie editor require fast storage because we are dealing with rather huge file size, so I'd go for a most affordable M.2 or U.2 storage.
    ■ After you've made your choice on whatever storage that suit your need then cross check its compatibility with motherboard, most latest motherboards have at least one M.2 slot, however, you planned for dual Xeon E5 2620 V4 + dual GTX 1080Ti.

  • ■ Vray rendering is more of GPU rendering, rather than planning on expensive dual Xeon and compatible motherboard, you should consider more affordable X99 motherboard to optimize GTX 1080Ti (native dual 16X PCIE lane from more friendly i7 5930K).
    ■ Adobe AE favors speed clock rather than cores count, you can still choose Xeon E5 2620 V4 (good base clock and turbo clock range), most of programs are still single threaded optimize, some CPU intensive program that favor cores such as Corona Render.

    ■ For hollywood grade workstation you can prepare a motherboard that is Intel Optane ready so you can later use Intel SSD DC P4800X.
    ■ The most vital part is UPS, you should google for best UPS that fits your PSU. Why? seems like you are running studio grade workstation, uptime and reliability is crucial for CGI artist.

- Supermicro C7Z270-PG
- Intel i3 7350K
- Cryorig H5 Ultimate
- 64GB DDR4
- GTX 1080Ti
- Intel SSD 750 or Samsung 950 Pro (you now can use them as boot drive)
- Seasonic SSR 850 TD Prime
- Any 2TB mechanical HDD (for backup)
Capture card? maybe you should upgrade your 4K camera.
 
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Hi Mikel, thanks for your reply, but it seems that I was not very clear on what I would like from this workstation.
The priority is 2k edit.
M.2 and U.2 could not handle an film project with at least 8TB of material. (Without breaking the budget)
So I thought it was more viable a raid system (raid 10) as I mentioned in the items on my list.
Resolve basically uses GPUs for processing and rendering. That's my priority. So I need at least 2 GPUs. The processor you mentioned has the maximum PCie lanes of 16. That will be exceeded only by using a single GPU. And as I said in the post, I would like a motherboard that would allow me to do a future upgrade, so a dual CPU motherboard would give me at least 80 PCIe Lanes. So neither this board nor this processor contemplates this possibility. On the capture board, I think I do not understood your positioning. This BlackMagic card is for 4k 4:4:4 output to a reference monitor for color grading.

 
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did you consider going for a AMD Radeon Pro Duo instead of Nvidia? you get to Fiji GPUs on 1 card for a total of 16 TFLOP of compute power (that's 8GB VRAM, 8192 stream processing units, 1TB/s of total memory bandwidth--that's right: 1 TB per sec! ) all this for less than $1,500. so now, 2 card (or 4 GPUs) and $3,000 later.... imagine! :D or you can wait for AMD Vega cards to come out later this year as it seems they will launch gfx compute capability into the stratosphere.
 
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With that high budget I would recommend you to wait for 3-4(minimum) months and not decide on anything. Even I had similar kind of build to be done last week but when I contacted Adobe regarding requirements they informed me that more number of cores do perform better. That contradicts the fact of what we have seen and what Puget system tests prove. When I contacted Puget system back they informed me to wait for some time as there is a Adobe upgrade coming soon and there is a possibility that it can be better optimized to work with more number of cores. Puget officials told me to wait for 3-4months(minimum) before going on with my project.
 
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noctuo,

in my view, the preliminary parts list has an incorrect emphasis on having many CPU cores. DaVinci resolve is completely GPU editing / processing. Because 3ds Max and After Effects are used, the single-thread performance is important. this is based on the clock speed of the CPU and the Xeon E5-2620 v4 2.1 /3.0 has a Passmark single-thread rating of 1548. In 3D modeling I use an E5-1660 v2 3.7 /4.0Ghz with a single-thread rating of 2193 and that is not good enough. I'm considering building an i7-7700K system (4-core @ 4.2/4.5Ghz) for 3D modeling as that has a single thread rating of 2597 and when mildly overclocked can reach 3400.

However, there is an argument for more than 4-cores as VRay for 3Ds is CPU-based. For VRay rendering I use a dual Xeon E5-2690 8-core @ 2.9/3.8GHz,. that system though is not faster than the E5-1660 v2 system as VRay is not well threaded. The 6-core system finishes 3180 X 2160 VRay renderings faster. Consider, reorienting the emphasis from core count to a Xeon E5-1680 v4 8-core @ 3.4 / 4.0GHz having an average single-thread mark of 2200. Adobe products are poorly threaded as well and After Effects is almost entirely single-threaded.

A couple of other comments, for 4K video editing, 128GB of RAM will be the minimum. Also, while I admire the design Lian Li 8000 case- very muscular !, I think it is unnecessarily large so as to have a many drives and will not be quiet enough.

In place of Vray for 3Ds, have a look at Indigo RT which uses both the CPU and GPU. I haven't seen purely GPU rendering for single images that I like but the Indigo results are very good and Indigo RT works for several programs including 3ds and AE.- it doesn't need multiple versions.

Be aware that in August- or thereabouts- the LGA2011-3 platform will be replaced by LGA2066.

Here is a list following these ideas:

Workstation: 2D CAD / 3D Modeling / Graphic Design / Video Editing / GPU Rendering_ 4.6.17

CPU: Intel Xeon E5-1680 v4 8-core @ 3.4 / 4.0GHz, 20M Cache, 140W > $1723

___http://ark.intel.com/products/92992/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-1680-v4-20M-Cache-3_40-GHz
___ Passmark CPU average CPU score =16684_Single Thread Mark = 2200

CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H100i V2 Extreme Performance Water / Liquid CPU Cooler. 240mm (CW-9060025-WW) > $100

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181103.

Motherboard: ASUS X99-E WS LGA2011-v3/ Intel X99/ DDR4/ 4-Way CrossFireX & 4-Way SLI/ SATA3&USB3.0/ M.2&SATA Express/ A&2GbE/ CEB Workstation Motherboard > $494

____ http://www.superbiiz.com/query.php?s=ASUS+X99-E+WS+

RAM: 128GB (8X 16GB) Samsung DDR4 2400MHz CL17 16GB Reg ECC 2Rx4 M393A2G40EB1-CRC 1.2V > $1,200 ($150 each) $696 ($87 each)

____ https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1N85698105

GPU 1,2: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti DirectX 12 GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GAMING X 11G 11GB 352-Bit GDDR5X PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card > $1,498 $749 each)

Drive 1: SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 1TB NVMe PCI-Express 3.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-V6E1T0BW > $480

____https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147594&cm_re=samsung_960_evo-_-20-147-594-_-Product

Drive 3,4: 2X Seagate Constellation ES.3 ST4000NM0033 4TB 7200RPM SATA3/SATA 6.0 GB/s 128MB Enterprise Hard Drive (3.5 inch) > $406 ($203 each) (RAID 1)(Files, Backup, System Image)

____ http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=HD-ST40NM3

Power Supply: CORSAIR RMx RM1000X 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Nvidia Sli ready and crossfire support Power Supply> $160

____ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139140

Optical Drive: Pioneer Black 16X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA Blu-ray Burner BDR-209DBK > $64

Case: LIAN LI PC-B16B Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case > $219.99

Operating System: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit - OEM $139.99
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TOTAL = $6,485


Cheers,

BambiBoom

CAD / 3D Modeling / Graphic Design:

HP z420 (2015) (Rev 3) > Xeon E5-1660 v2 (6-core @ 3.7 / 4.0GHz) / 32GB DDR3 -1866 ECC RAM / Quadro K4200 (4GB) / Samsung SM951 M.2 256GB AHCI + Intel 730 480GB (9SSDSC2BP480G4R5) + Western Digital Black WD1003FZEX 1TB> M-Audio 192 sound card > 600W PSU> > Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z2300 2.1 speakers > 2X Dell Ultrasharp U2715H (2560 X 1440)
[ Passmark Rating = 5581 > CPU= 14046 / 2D= 838 / 3D= 4694 / Mem= 2777 / Disk= 11559] [6.12.16]

Analysis / Simulation / Rendering:

HP z620 (2012) (Rev 3) 2X Xeon E5-2690 (8-core @ 2.9 / 3.8GHz) / 64GB DDR3-1600 ECC reg) / Quadro K2200 (4GB) + Tesla M2090 (6GB) / HP Z Turbo Drive (256GB) + Samsung 850 Evo 250GB + Seagate Constellation ES.3 (1TB) / Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCIe sound card / 800W / Windows 7 Professional 64-bit > Logitech z313 2.1 speakers > HP 2711x (27" 1980 X 1080)
[ Passmark System Rating= 5675 / CPU= 22625 / 2D= 815 / 3D = 3580 / Mem = 2522 / Disk = 12640 ] 9.25.16
[ Cinebench R15: OpenGL= 119.23 fps / CPU = 2209 cb / Single core 130 cb / MP Ratio 16.84x] 10.31.16



 
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