What cpu and gpu should I get for my first pc build?

PaulSiren · Mar 25, 2017

Hmm. I have just under 900$. It will be the first pc I build. I want solid 1080p gaming with a gpu also capable of decent 1440p gaming, if I ever get into that. On the cpu side I want a nice gaming experience with capability of a good editing and streaming experience.
Cpu choices: i5-7500, i5-7600k, i7-7700, i7-67/7700k, ryzen 5 1600, ryzen 5 1500x.
Gpu choices: rx 480 8gb, gtx 1070, rx 480 4gb
I also know that the rx 500 series is coming out in just about a week after ryzen 5 launch, but I am too impatient. If i went for a ryzen 5 and an rx 480, I could use the leftover money on 16gb of ram and a bigger hdd or ssd.

Makentox · Mar 25, 2017

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Motherboard: MSI B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($99.97 @ Jet)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 480 4GB GAMING X Video Card ($199.99 @ Jet)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400 TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($72.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $611.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-25 04:41 EDT-0400

+ Ryzen 5

Ryzen is great for streaming and addicting as well as quite good for gaming.
In 2-3 weeks will rx 500 come out so u should make this thread again, because in 2-3 weeks things may change.

Isokolon · Mar 25, 2017

I'd go with a Ryzen 5 1600X.

6 cores & 12 threads is actually more than an i7 for less money.
When only gaming the 7700k will deliver more frames (maximum frames) but when recording or streaming Ryzen will produce better average frames and editing is so much faster.

For 1440p a 1070 is recommended. Going with a Rx480+medium settings is possible, I recommend getting the 8GB VRam version though.

If you can stretch your budget for a few bucks (you'll always be able to add an HDD later) or look around for some good deals:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Motherboard: MSI B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: PNY Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.33 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 480 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card ($240.98 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12G 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Other: Ryzen 5 1600X ($260.00)
Total: $904.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-25 05:06 EDT-0400

PaulSiren · Mar 25, 2017

Oh if I only lived in the US and the prices were that cheap. Mindfactory.de has the cheapest prices in Europe and they are still rather high prices.

Isokolon · Mar 25, 2017

well if you said 900€ straight away...
of course everyone will list US prices if you say 900$

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Motherboard: MSI B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€89.00)
Memory: ADATA XPG Z1 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€99.00)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€77.49 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€51.04 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB NITRO+ OC Video Card (€235.00)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case (€48.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€76.94 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Other: Ryzen 5 1600X (€250.00)
Total: €926.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-25 21:34 CET+0100

drop the HDD and add it later (or the ssd and add it later, be sure to make a 220GB partition on your HDD to move it to the SSD later)

prices on pcpp aren't correct, filled in a few myself
here are the links

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-Sapphire-Radeon-RX-480-Nitro-8G-D5-OC-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1139653.html
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/550-Watt-XFX-Pro-Core-Edition-Non-Modular-80--Bronze_729911.html
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/MSI-B350M-GAMING-PRO-AMD-B350-So-AM4-Dual-Channel-DDR4-mATX-Retail_1144077.html
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01JH8MVU2?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&linkCode=df0&creative=22494&creativeASIN=B01JH8MVU2&childASIN=B01JH8MVU2&tag=geizhals1-21

PaulSiren · Mar 26, 2017

Does the psu need to be that one? Evga 600b for 58€. I can also pick a 128gb m.2 ssd, because it is preferred to get the price down to around 800-850€. I have a pc case that I am going for already here in my house, so that might help with it. I also need to buy a monitor. 1080p, preferably 22-24", price somewhere under 120€, freesync would be a nice added bonus. Do you have any recommendations from amazon.de? They have free shipping to Finland where I live.
The monitor is not included in the 800-850€ price. I will count that in later. Sorry if this is getting confusing.

Isokolon · Mar 26, 2017

well the XFX Pro is a superb unit that comes with a long lifespan (mine is in it's 8th year without problems) and is made by Seasonic, which is known to only do quality PSUs.
the EVGA 600b is a budget unit made by HEC who haven't made a single really decent unit ever. Will it work with the EVGA? Sure. is it wise to cut cost there? well, opinions differ.
see the PSU as the fuel injector of a car. you wouldn't pair the fuel injector of a old soviet car with the engine of a new Porsche. I'd personally go for the XFX rather as it's clearly the superior unit for rougly 18€ extra.

as for cheaper SSDs, go with SATA rather than with M.2. cheaper M.2 SSDs are usually the same speed.

as for screens, freesynch below 120€ is mostly junk.
In that price range I'd look at LG or Samsung. I'm using an old LG myself that was 120€ back in the day and I have to say, I like it far more than the BenQs I got at work that were most certainly more expensive.

looking at Amazon:
24'' IPS Freesync is 145€ https://www.amazon.de/Samsung-S24F350FHU-Zoll-Full-HD-Monitor/dp/B01BCF0006/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1490536338&sr=1-1&keywords=S24F350FHU
otherwise scrolling through Amazon Asus looks like the best bet comapring price/availability
https://www.amazon.de/Asus-VP228H-Monitor-Reaktionszeit-schwarz/dp/B016AWBK00/ref=sr_1_48?m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1490536065&sr=1-48

PaulSiren · Mar 26, 2017

Well, I found a deal on an xfx p1-500w xtfr psu (41€), so I really can not pass on that. It cannot be that bad. And my local store has a deal on a samsung 23,6" freesync monitor, so that is my pick for that. Thanks for helping, really helped with my decisions.

Isokolon · Mar 26, 2017

The XT is that bad.....there's a reason it's so much lower priced.
if someone's too good to be true, it is.
but ultimately, it's your decision of course.

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