Need new amd cpu

samboughton · Mar 26, 2017

i have a fx 6300 with a gtx 1060 and it is a bit bottlenecked so i want to know what the best amd processor wuld be the best to get.

GamingEnthusiast420 · Mar 26, 2017

Do you want an AMD so that you can avoid having to change your motherboard/ram?
If so, my recommendation is either the FX 9590 or the FX 8350.
If you were comfortable with changing your motherboard/ram, I would recommend a Ryzen 1700 or an i5-7600k.

JaredEN · Mar 26, 2017

I agree with GE420. I highly recommend the FX 83** series, Great price/performance ratio. Make sure you have adequate cooling for whichever you choose, they run a hot 100-160 watts. For air cooling: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpu-coolers,4181.html For liquid cooling: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpu-coolers,4181-2.html

ayushde · Mar 26, 2017

samboughton :

You will always remain CPU bottlenecked with the 1060 @1080p even if you decide to get the 9590. My suggestion would be get a platform change. If you are short on cash, try and save up(Meanwhile you could overclock your CPU t0 somewhat lessen the bottleneck). Investing in a piledriver CPU (Now that Ryzen 5 will be out soon) is a waste of money in my opinion.

sizzling · Mar 26, 2017

What motherboard and psu do you have? However even if you can run a 125w FX8XXX cpu (Don't touch the FX9XXX range) you will still get a similar bottleneck in most games. The problem with the FX range is the very weak core performance (low IPC) and the FX8XXX are really no better than the FX6300 and very few games will use the extra 2 cores.

Unfortunately the only upgrade that will make a significant different is either going AMD Ryzen or Intel but both need a new motherboard and RAM and possibly new Windows licence depending on Windows version and if its OEM.

The AM3+ socket and DDR3 are end of life now and the FX series are 6 years old and just weak by todays standards.

chemmajorp53 · Mar 26, 2017

GamingEnthusiast420 :

95% of AMD motherboards can't even run a 9590, and considering that he has an FX 6300 I highly doubt he spent the extra money to get one. In addition that CPU is absolute garbage. The only options that make sense here are waiting for Ryzen 5 (which comes out in a couple weeks) or switching to Intel. The FX 8350 won't be much if any faster in most games than an FX 6300 is.

JaredEN · Mar 26, 2017

ayushde :

But then he would have to get a new mobo, i'm guessing he's trying to keep his current mobo.

chemmajorp53 · Mar 26, 2017

Well the point is that there isn't an upgrade that makes sense on his current mobo, you can't magically just make newer processors fit on an old mobo. Any processor that's faster than his on AM3 isn't worth the money to upgrade in the slightest, so he might as well just stay on the 6300 if he wants to keep his mobo.

JaredEN · Mar 26, 2017

chemmajorp53 :

I do respectively disagree, the 8350 runs games like far cry primal, fallout 4, just cause 3, and more without going over 40% usage on the most intensive moments. Even though it's outdated, it's not obsolete for gaming, especially if you're aiming for a budget, or midrange pc. the 6300 overall is nowhere near the 8350, not even mentioning overclocking capabilities.

JaredEN · Mar 26, 2017

If you don't want a bottleneck, you're going to have to switch to intel, with a new mobo. If you want the best with what you've got, stick with GE420.

ayushde · Mar 26, 2017

JaredEN :

My point is the same as ChemMajorp53. The fx 9xxx/8xxx cpus don't do all that much better than the fx 6300 in games to make upgrading to them worth it. If the 6300 is performing poorly in a game, chances are that the 8 core piledriver CPUs won't fare much better. This is because the real Achilles heels of the piledriver CPUs is single threaded performance.
Therefore its not advisable for the OP to stay on this platform if he wants better performance. If he is short on cash right now, he should hold out a bit longer (for ryzen 5) and save some money in the mean time.

JaredEN · Mar 26, 2017

chemmajorp53 :

I could agree with that, sometime you have to build it strong the first time, as to not waste money in the future.

chemmajorp53 · Mar 26, 2017

The Ryzen 5 1500X and 1600X look like they will be pretty good deals, I would definitely wait for them to come out before making any changes to your build

ayushde · Mar 26, 2017

JaredEN :

The CPU does not need to be 100% loaded for a game to bve CPU bottlenecked. Theoretically, a game could be bottlenecked by a 8350 with only 12.5% CPU usage if it is single threaded and one thread is at 100% load. Now while that is an extreme case, it not uncommon for modern games to be bottlenecked by a single thread hence making the system CPU limited despite relatively low overall CPU utilization.

JaredEN · Mar 26, 2017

ayushde :

JaredEN :

The CPU does not need to be 100% loaded for a game to bve CPU bottlenecked. Theoretically, a game could be bottlenecked by a 8350 with only 12.5% CPU usage if it is single threaded and one thread is at 100% load. Now while that is an extreme case, it not uncommon for modern games to be bottlenecked by a single thread hence making the system CPU limited despite relatively low overall CPU utilization.

True, i forgot about the single threads.

JaredEN · Mar 26, 2017

I'm happy with price/performance though. 65% percent the single threaded performance of the i7 6700K, for half the price

GamingEnthusiast420 · Mar 26, 2017

chemmajorp53 :

I'm not exactly sure about 95%. They fit the same socket (AM3), which means that they are compatible motherboard/ram wise. As for the processor itself, I have said that it wouldn't be the best option. A switch to Kaby Lake or Intel would be ideal, but since we don't know if OP is willing to switch platforms, the best choice (assuming OP wants to stick to AM3) would be the FX 8350

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