Dell Inspiron 660 gpu upgrade

Jkfarley17 · Mar 26, 2017

Hi I am new to computers and I wanted to try and build or upgrade a pc. There's a dell inspiron 660 with 8 gb of ram and the i3 processor that I think I can get for around a hundred bucks. (Old work computer)
First I want to know if that would be worth doing and I also want to know what a good graphics upgrade for it would be. Are there any good cards that you can use without upgrading the psu that draw the power straight from the pcie slot? Would an amd Radeon 460 2gb work without a psu upgrade? If there is nothing good to use without upgrading the psu what would you reccomend getting? I want to be able to player newer games at around 60 fps hopefully at 1080p
Thanks
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01K1JV83C/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1490552968&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=radeon+rx+460

hang-the-9 · Mar 27, 2017

That is probably a first or second gen i3, while not bad, about $100 is a normal price for that model. If it's a tower, for just powering it, the RX 460 is OK, the issue is the OEM motherboards and newer video cards. They tend not to play well with each other. You may want to look at the last or even earlier generation of video cards for that system. It "may" work, but you'd have to get the card from a place you know will take it back if it does not. And make sure you check for a latest BIOS version for the system.

Jkfarley17 · Mar 27, 2017

What would you recommend as a good graphics card for the setup? I don't need anything crazy I really just want to be able to play games at decent settings

hang-the-9 · Mar 28, 2017

Jkfarley17 :

The issue with last gen cards is that they use more power for the same speed, and in the case of AMD, quite a lot more power.

nVidia 750 Ti is probably the best you can run on the stock power supply that has a great chance to work with that motherboard. It will run modern games are decent settings at 1080 resolution.

Jkfarley17 · Mar 28, 2017

hang-the-9 :

Jkfarley17 :

The issue with last gen cards is that they use more power for the same speed, and in the case of AMD, quite a lot more power.

nVidia 750 Ti is probably the best you can run on the stock power supply that has a great chance to work with that motherboard. It will run modern games are decent settings at 1080 resolution.

Would I need to upgrade the power supply for this card?

hang-the-9 · Mar 28, 2017

Jkfarley17 :

hang-the-9 :

Would I need to upgrade the power supply for this card?

Probably not, I think the tower model has at least a 300 watt PSU. Look at it and see what the wattage is and also the amps on the 12 volt rail.

junkeymonkey · Mar 28, 2017

better make sure the cards are even supported under any dell proprietary bios used first a lot find they don't and S.O.L a lot that ship with 7 may nor accept a card over a say NVidia 600 series cause of the legacy bios used

best to check like at Dell forums on your model and see whats said on what cards work and what may not

some models of store bought computers [dell.hp,acer,ect..] may come with a ''locked or fixed'' / legacy or uefi bios and may not allow you to change certain hardware as a video card.. this is done to protect them from undue warranty claims and refunds .this is not done to hurt you but to protect them. you really need to see if that upgrade has been proven to work in your model first before you invest money in it .. there are a lot of these threads here at toms to look at some models will allow upgrades and some dont.. and a lot of guys here say ya ya ya when is really no no no...it would be sad you spent $200 on a card that won't post after you installed it as most find out. then get told its your psu and you spend more and end up right back where you are now, but its up to you good luck..

you got to know the boards in these computers are not like the ones we use to do custom builds witch are open to upgrading with in the boards compatibly . the bios is custom made for there design and just for the parts they authorize to be used on there computers there only guaranteed to work as is out of the box as you bought it ,..

also these boards do not have to meet atx standards and there pci-e slot power may not do the required 75w needed for most higher end cards and can be limited to say 45 or 60w that is all thats needed with the low end factory oem cards that it may of shipped with
[example]
http://en.community.dell.com/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/3514/1030.DESKTOP.jpg

in the end any upgrade you do is all your own risk . the prebuilt manufactures only guarantees there computers work as sold to you as is out of the box from there factory with what they put on it , not a drop more

there in business to sell you whole ready to go computers , and dont worry about you upgrading them or giving you support to do so . thats not how they make there money they prefer you run to wal-mart and buy there ''better'' latest models

Jkfarley17 · Mar 28, 2017

hang-the-9 :

Jkfarley17 :

Probably not, I think the tower model has at least a 300 watt PSU. Look at it and see what the wattage is and also the amps on the 12 volt rail.

Yea it has a 300 watt psu. I'm not sure about the amps on the rail I'm not entirely sure how that works and I don't have access to the computer right now. Does the 750ti draw its power from the pcie slot?

Jkfarley17 · Mar 28, 2017

junkeymonkey :

better make sure the cards are even supported under any dell proprietary bios used first a lot find they don't and S.O.L a lot that ship with 7 may nor accept a card over a say NVidia 600 series cause of the legacy bios used

best to check like at Dell forums on your model and see whats said on what cards work and what may not

some models of store bought computers [dell.hp,acer,ect..] may come with a ''locked or fixed'' / legacy or uefi bios and may not allow you to change certain hardware as a video card.. this is done to protect them from undue warranty claims and refunds .this is not done to hurt you but to protect them. you really need to see if that upgrade has been proven to work in your model first before you invest money in it .. there are a lot of these threads here at toms to look at some models will allow upgrades and some dont.. and a lot of guys here say ya ya ya when is really no no no...it would be sad you spent $200 on a card that won't post after you installed it as most find out. then get told its your psu and you spend more and end up right back where you are now, but its up to you good luck..

you got to know the boards in these computers are not like the ones we use to do custom builds witch are open to upgrading with in the boards compatibly . the bios is custom made for there design and just for the parts they authorize to be used on there computers there only guaranteed to work as is out of the box as you bought it ,..

also these boards do not have to meet atx standards and there pci-e slot power may not do the required 75w needed for most higher end cards and can be limited to say 45 or 60w that is all thats needed with the low end factory oem cards that it may of shipped with
[example]
http://en.community.dell.com/cfs-file/__key/communityserver-discussions-components-files/3514/1030.DESKTOP.jpg

in the end any upgrade you do is all your own risk . the prebuilt manufactures only guarantees there computers work as sold to you as is out of the box from there factory with what they put on it , not a drop more

there in business to sell you whole ready to go computers , and dont worry about you upgrading them or giving you support to do so . thats not how they make there money they prefer you run to wal-mart and buy there ''better'' latest models

would you advize to just not buy the computer?

junkeymonkey · Mar 28, 2017

I can never recommend a prebuilt out side of light office or household use at best , sorry. only you know whats best for you and your needs

you see how much fun these guys had with a gpu upgrade and that was a older 600 series card

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/dell-inspiron-660-not-recognizing-new-video-card.2314832/

like I said ''in the end any upgrade you do is all your own risk . the prebuilt manufactures only guarantees there computers work as sold to you as is out of the box from there factory with what they put on it , not a drop more ''

you may get the card in and all works well as expected ??? I'd be sure to buy the card from a retailer with a generous RMA/ refund policy if things don't work out as expected

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