I5 to 4790K/Ryzen 5/7?

Ds9Defiant1701 · Mar 26, 2017

Hi,

I am frequently at 100% usage on my 4690K since i frequently use sony vegas 13 and i host non-dedicated Ark Server so it get my CPU usage to 100% and i get some FPS drops when i host in Ark and the encoding time in Vegas is really long.

So i was thinking to go 4790(350), or 4790k(403) or Ryzen 7(600 with all component change)

Thanks for help

koreanoverlord · Mar 26, 2017

If you can deal with Ryzen's quirkiness at the moment, I feel it would be a better investment for you in the long run.

A 4790K will be a much more efficient upgrade at the moment, as you already have a board that is compatible.

Ecky · Mar 26, 2017

When you're encoding, you're generally loading your CPU 100%. It won't matter if you have 4 or 8 or 64 cores - if you load all of them, you're going to see FPS drops in your server. You could limit Vegas to only using 3 cores when you're gaming, or maybe even just 2, and see if that fixes your drops.

Ds9Defiant1701 · Mar 26, 2017

I don't do both at the same time but when i play Ark hosting i get soo much FPS drops...
And Sony Vegas i think it take too much time to encode sometimes

And i have frequently many programs open at the same time

Chugalug_ · Mar 26, 2017

Ryzen 7 would probably be worth it given your scenario, the 1700X is the best value.
What are your thoughts on running the Ryzen CPU in a dedicated rig?

Ds9Defiant1701 · Mar 26, 2017

Chugalug_ :

What do you mean by dedicated rig?

Chugalug_ · Mar 26, 2017

As in a separate PC for your Ryzen CPU setup.
E.g.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($324.68 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($19.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($99.97 @ Jet)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.33 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 460 2GB Dual OC Video Card ($85.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $749.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-26 22:13 EDT-0400

Ecky · Mar 26, 2017

If OP were to go the "2 machines" approach, it kinda makes more sense to leave the dedicated server running on the Intel chip, or maybe just the encoding, because it has integrated graphics and would save some money.

Chugalug_ · Mar 26, 2017

Wouldn't get as many threads for the cash, you might end up going for a 5820k, but even then that'd only work out about $20 cheaper than the 1700 and an RX 460, even then we're not accounting for the higher cost of the x99 boards.

Ecky · Mar 26, 2017

What I mean is, leave the i5 and just take whatever video card OP has out and put it with whatever new CPU OP gets. The i5 doesn't need a discrete GPU if it's not gaming.

Ds9Defiant1701 · Mar 26, 2017

i don't have the money to build another pc if i get i7 or ryzen i sell my i5

Chugalug_ · Mar 27, 2017

Ecky :

The i5 won't be able to run a server well though, which is what i'm getting at with the dedicated Ryzen rig.
@OP, I thought you said your budget was $600 right?
With only a little more you can get a separate rig for the Ryzen system and let it run the server while you use your current PC to game. Another option is to just get Ryzen and game with that, but then you're selling your i5.
I'm saying, use the Ryzen rig for the server AND for rendering in Vegas Pro 13, and then that frees up a heap of room for your i5 to work its magic uninterrupted by anything.

Chugalug_ · Mar 27, 2017

Here's a cheaper version. Well worth saving for.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($324.68 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($99.97 @ Jet)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.33 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GT 730 1GB Video Card ($52.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($19.35 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 350W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $665.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-03-27 01:16 EDT-0400

Ds9Defiant1701 · Mar 27, 2017

600 because i can resell the I5 with the board and the ram easy for 300-350 or the i5 alone at 250

SinxarKnights · Mar 27, 2017

I would like to meet the sucker who would buy it at that price. I have an R9 280 im looking to get 200 out of.

You can get a 4690k at about 180 used.

Chugalug_ · Mar 27, 2017

CPU, mobo and RAM will sell for about 250-300.
A 7600k new costs $230, not to mention the fact it performs about 20% faster.

hdgaming · Mar 27, 2017

On a non-dedicated server the max total of people is only 4 right? or am I wrong? Also Ark is un-optimized as hell.

How much ram do you have? Ark eats a lot of ram, when I play singleplayer it uses about 10gb of ram, so if you have 8gb, it might not be enough.
Also what gpu do you have? Ark is not cpu intensive at all, with how many people do you play this game?

in Sony Vegas I can imagine the r7 1700 be a good upgrade but dont pin me on it since I never used it before.

Chugalug_ · Mar 27, 2017

I assumed the max total people was about 32 for Ark community servers, I don't actually play the game myself so I suppose I wouldn't know. ^.^
@OP, if this is the case an i7 4790k will suit you just fine I presume, its a very cost effective upgrade too.
If you don't have a CPU cooler already get the Cryorig H7.

Ds9Defiant1701 · Mar 31, 2017

Wow didn't have any notification on that gg lol

got three choices: 4770 for 300 4790 for 370 or 4790K for 430 id say all minus 250 so it would be 50(Iidk Import charge since its from australia and i am canada)/120(import included)/180(Imp. Incl.) and for Ram i've got 12Gb but can add 4 when i want since i've got a few sticks

Also don't forget prices are canadian prices

Chugalug_ · Apr 1, 2017

Wait, are you in canada or aus?
Why mention australia?
Just give me the prices straight after all this import crap, i'm confused.

Ds9Defiant1701 · Apr 1, 2017

Because the I7 i found is in australia and probably going to get import charge when i'll get delivered...

And yes i am in canada

Chugalug_ · Apr 1, 2017

Send me the links for all 3.

Ds9Defiant1701 · Apr 1, 2017

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-4GHz-Quad-Core-BX80646I74790K-Processor-/162452198416?hash=item25d2e7d410:g:8rkAAOSwmgJY3mj4 Another 4790K i just found http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Intel-Quad-Core-i7-4770-Haswell-3-4GHz-8MB-SR149-LGA-1150-4th-Gen-CPU-Processor-/272612259828?hash=item3f78f4f7f4:g:RFQAAOSwdGFY3d5q The 4770 and the 4790 http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Intel-Core-i7-4790-Quad-Core-Processor-BX80646I74790-/182510938027?hash=item2a7e7fe7ab:g:kcsAAOSwCU1Y3wyV

Chugalug_ · Apr 1, 2017

What's the price after shipping + import for each?

Ds9Defiant1701 · Apr 1, 2017

300 for the 4770 but the import will be charged at delivery(wtf), 4790 at 370 and 400 for 4790k

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