Good Cpu for Gpu

snowboardx13 · Mar 27, 2017

Just as the title says I'm looking for a good cpu for my gtx 1070, and when i looked up the bf1 recommended requirements, I saw that my i5 4690k was no longer cutting it, so the recommended processor is an i7 4790, but is there any other i7 that anyone could recommend, for cpu heavy games like bf1 and rust.

sizzling · Mar 27, 2017

Your only options are a 4790k or 4770k assuming you have a Z97 or Z87 motherboard and want to overclock. If not overclocking then get the non k variants.

KyleADunn · Mar 27, 2017

snowboardx13 :

Check my sig, I use a 4690k and 1070 SC.

From my experience in both BF1 and Rust, you will have no problems at all playing them. No stutters, no lag; it's great. Granted, my 4690k has a slight OC. While an 8 core or 8 threads would be nice, it's honestly not necessary. Now, if you are looking to record or stream while playing, I WILL say that when I try to stream while playing, I stutter/lag sometimes (in critical moments). If you like to stream, you'll be hurting and indeed should upgrade.

i7-4790k would be a fine upgrade. No need to upgrade the CPU and mobo for a slightly faster newer gen i7.

snowboardx13 · Mar 27, 2017

KyleADunn :

well in bf1 i get 100% cpu usage while the gpu is around 60-70%, and performance isn't really that great, also with rust, no matter what, I get stutters, but not too many, so I'm thinking that I should prob get a new cpu, btw this is my motherboard: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CXOMGGW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

KyleADunn · Mar 27, 2017

snowboardx13 :

With a Z87 board you won't be able to overclock too much, but I would try pushing it to 4.0-4.2Ghz before upgrading, just to see if it is -enough- to make it alright.

If you're set on getting an i7, though, get the k variant anyway, regardless of your plans to OC or not.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790/2384vs2293
The k variants come with higher base clocks; whether you overclock or not they're faster.

snowboardx13 · Mar 27, 2017

KyleADunn :

snowboardx13 :

With a Z87 board you won't be able to overclock too much, but I would try pushing it to 4.0-4.2Ghz before upgrading, just to see if it is -enough- to make it alright.

If you're set on getting an i7, though, get the k variant anyway, regardless of your plans to OC or not.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790/2384vs2293
The k variants come with higher base clocks; whether you overclock or not they're faster.

ok well I'm not very good at overclocking so if there's any tips or a guide I could follow that would be cool

KyleADunn · Mar 27, 2017

snowboardx13 :

KyleADunn :

snowboardx13 :

With a Z87 board you won't be able to overclock too much, but I would try pushing it to 4.0-4.2Ghz before upgrading, just to see if it is -enough- to make it alright.

If you're set on getting an i7, though, get the k variant anyway, regardless of your plans to OC or not.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790/2384vs2293
The k variants come with higher base clocks; whether you overclock or not they're faster.

ok well I'm not very good at overclocking so if there's any tips or a guide I could follow that would be cool

Your motherboard comes equipped with OC-Genie. Go into the BIOS and click the OC-Genie button, don't change anything else, and save & exit. https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/Z87-G43.html#hero-overview

shrapnel_indie · Mar 27, 2017

Recommended specs or minimum? Look at minimum specs too. If you're better than minimum, you may be able to just turn down the graphics some o get rid of the stutter issue.

If turning down the graphics is a no-go, Go ahead and grab the i7-4790k, but make sure your BIOS has been updated with the latest update and that that update will support your selected CPU. (It should unless MSI just refused to do it... IF they did, you're limited to an i7-4770k.) Your system is still new enough it doesn't warrant a jump to Kaby-Lake.... so if you don't have it already, maybe upgrade to 8 or 16 GB of RAM.

theonerm2 · Mar 27, 2017

I'm interested in KNOWING WHY so many people with a Core i5 want to jump to an i7 just because of this game. So I'm testing it on my own hardware just to see. I'm doing it now. I'm also going to make a video about it. We'll see how Core/Thread count and frequency affects gameplay In THIS TITLE! Also I'm going to test RAM. Will 16GB have a huge effect over 8GB? Let's find out. I'll post the video shortly.

snowboardx13 · Mar 27, 2017

theonerm2 :

sounds good, I'm eager to see what results you get

theonerm2 · Mar 28, 2017

Videos upload tomorrow. At 4K there's no bottleneck what so ever even with no hyperthreading enabled on my 4770K which simulates a Core i5. The GPU runs at 100% all the time at 4K. At 1440p there's a slight bottleneck with the GPU running in the mid 90%'s. And at 1080p I get 100% CPU utilization with heavy bottlenecking. The GPU sometimes runs down to the 60%'s at 1080p. I strongly recommend playing this game at 1440p with your setup. If you're on a 1080p monitor give DSR a try and see if you like it. Average framerates were up by over 20% on the Core i7 vs i5 at 1080p. We're talking 110 vs 135. I tested on a GTX 1080.

snowboardx13 · Mar 28, 2017

theonerm2 :

Videos upload tomorrow. At 4K there's no bottleneck what so ever even with no hyperthreading enabled on my 4770K which simulates a Core i5. The GPU runs at 100% all the time at 4K. At 1440p there's a slight bottleneck with the GPU running in the mid 90%'s. And at 1080p I get 100% CPU utilization with heavy bottlenecking. The GPU sometimes runs down to the 60%'s at 1080p. I strongly recommend playing this game at 1440p with your setup. If you're on a 1080p monitor give DSR a try and see if you like it. Average framerates were up by over 20% on the Core i7 vs i5 at 1080p. We're talking 110 vs 135. I tested on a GTX 1080.

sorry but I have no idea what DSR is :/

kol12 · Mar 28, 2017

I also have the 4690k and GTX 1070 and play BF1. I feel the 4690k is capable of maintaining 60 fps in BF1. The CPU usage is high and often hits 100% but the fps drops are minimal. I had worse performance at one stage and spent a long time searching for solutions. I discovered that the software Corsair Link was causing crazy stutter when running in the background. I suggest terminating any other background apps that may be consuming the CPU at the same time as you play BF1. You should be able to run ultra on the 1070 which should reduce any CPU bottleneck. Be sure to run at least 120 resolution scale (in game settings) as well if not more. There are some other fixes I have but try these first.

If more games start being 8 thread optimized we may be forced to i7 as the gaming standard...

theonerm2 · Mar 28, 2017

More testing was done this morning. The simulated Core i5 scored Avg: 105.216 - Min: 57 and my i7 scored Avg: 116.314 - Min: 95. Only a 10% difference. Both were overclocked to 4GHz this time. Not much reason to upgrade in my opinion. You could easily OC to 4.4GHz or higher and close that gap a bit. Overclocking is easy. Just go into the bios, change your clock multiplier to 44, and you're done most likely.

theonerm2 · Mar 28, 2017

snowboardx13 :

DSR is Dynamic Super Resolution. Open Nvidia control panel. Click manage 3D settings. Change DSR factor to 1.50x. After which you should have a nicer looking image and your GPU should be fully utilized or close to it. Also your fps will drop a bit but it shouldn't go under 60 fps.

Here's my video. https://youtu.be/p_EnouHHxPE

kol12 · Mar 29, 2017

theonerm2 :

How would DSR differ to the in-game resolution scale? I take it DSR has to be enabled globally as there is no DSR option for the BF1 profile in manage 3D settings, Nvidia control panel. Once DSR is applied globally is it applied to the desktop or only games?

theonerm2 · Mar 29, 2017

Usually when DSR is enabled you can select a higher resolution in the game. That's how it works.

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