G4560 + GTX 1080 or Ryzen 5 1400X + GTX 1070?

IDProG · Mar 28, 2017

I want to build a PC, but my budget doesn't allow me to go all out, for now. I have to choose between these two CPU + GPU Combo:

1) G4560 + GTX 1080 (upgrade the CPU and motherboard later)
2) Ryzen 5 1400X + GTX 1070 (upgrade the GPU later)

I know that it seems stupid to pair GTX 1080 with a G4560, but I'm planning to game on 4K, which means that bottlenecking won't occur IMO. I'm going to upgrade the parts next year, when I have more money. Note that for the G4560, I will be using BIOS-updated H110 motherboard. While for the 1400X, I will be using the B350 motherboard. Which one will give a better performance at 4K? Also note that I'm perfectly fine with reducing the settings up to low-medium settings as long as I can get 60 FPS.

Any help is appreciated.

clutchc · Mar 28, 2017

If you're fine with reducing settings at 4K, go with #1. (Obviously you won't get the 1080 to perform at max potential with the hyper-threaded dual core) Upgrading the CPU later will bring things into perspective.
#2 is a fine choice too, because it too is upgradable in both CPU and GPU. But the 1080 now would help with 4K.

why_wolf · Mar 28, 2017

I recommend going with the stronger CPU now and upgrading the GPU to a better model later on. It is far, far easier to upgrade the GPU then it is to upgrade the CPU (which could require a full reinstall of Windows).

clutchc · Mar 28, 2017

Upgrading the CPU doesn't require a re-install of Windows.

Ecky · Mar 28, 2017

3 hypothetical scenarios in a 64 player online game:

1) G4560 + GTX 1080 - able to run max settings 4k without any change to framerates, which always hang around the 50's and dip into the 40's or even lower because your CPU is always maxed out. Occasional hitching.

2) Ryzen 5 1400X + GTX 1070 - game generally stays above 60fps but requires you to sacrifice some detail to keep it there at really high resolutions. Occasional framerate dips happen regardless of graphical settings. Reaching 120fps is not possible with any graphical settings due to lack of CPU grunt.

3) i7 7700K + GTX 1060 - 4k resolution requires the use of medium to low settings to stay above 60fps, but framerates vary little and provide a consistent experience. Dropping resolution a bit allows you to turn up the details. At 1080P and some tweaking of sliders, you're able to get a butter smooth 120fps.

There are generally no settings you can lower to improve things when your CPU is not enough. When framerates drop due to lack of CPU power, you just live with it, whereas if you cheap out on the GPU, you can always lower graphical settings and get a smooth framerate. Plus, GPUs tend to age much more quickly than CPUs. Expect any GPU you buy to devalue a lot more quickly, and to need replacing sooner.

IDProG · Mar 29, 2017

I think the 1060 is out of question, simply because it's too weak for 4K gaming. So, since GPUs age faster than CPUs, I think Ryzen 5 will do just fine for some years. Ryzen 5 1400X + GTX 1070 it is, then.

theonerm2 · Mar 29, 2017

Well why not lease your graphics card like I do and focus on your CPU? I'm leasing a GTX 1080 ti and I'll get it Friday. There's no way I could afford to pay $700 for a graphics card all at once plus I switch out and upgrade my graphics card all the time. I started with a GTX 980 ti SC+, I tried out the GTX 1070, GTX 1070 sli ftw, GTX 1070 sli Strix, GTX 1080 founders edition, GTX 1080 G1 Gaming, GTX 1080 SC, GTX 1080 FTW, GTX 1080 Strix, and now I'm getting the GTX 1080 ti founders edition on Friday. That is $7000 worth of graphics cards that I was able to get my hands on. There will be more GTX 1080's and 1080 ti's in stock soon. Right now they only have GTX 1070's and RX 480's. https://cuttingedgegamer.com/products/

With the way graphics card lose value and how often new ones come out I see little reason not to lease. It's just like paying a small fee and being able to get any graphics card you want.

qw12345 · Jun 26, 2017

why_wolf :

Not with windows 8.1 or later.... and not if you run linux ad do a windows virtual machine....

questonomeutenteesistegia · Oct 12, 2017

Ecky :

3 hypothetical scenarios in a 64 player online game:

1) G4560 + GTX 1080 - able to run max settings 4k without any change to framerates, which always hang around the 50's and dip into the 40's or even lower because your CPU is always maxed out. Occasional hitching.

2) Ryzen 5 1400X + GTX 1070 - game generally stays above 60fps but requires you to sacrifice some detail to keep it there at really high resolutions. Occasional framerate dips happen regardless of graphical settings. Reaching 120fps is not possible with any graphical settings due to lack of CPU grunt.

3) i7 7700K + GTX 1060 - 4k resolution requires the use of medium to low settings to stay above 60fps, but framerates vary little and provide a consistent experience. Dropping resolution a bit allows you to turn up the details. At 1080P and some tweaking of sliders, you're able to get a butter smooth 120fps.

There are generally no settings you can lower to improve things when your CPU is not enough. When framerates drop due to lack of CPU power, you just live with it, whereas if you cheap out on the GPU, you can always lower graphical settings and get a smooth framerate. Plus, GPUs tend to age much more quickly than CPUs. Expect any GPU you buy to devalue a lot more quickly, and to need replacing sooner.

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