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Leyha

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I dont know all about water cooler, my ask is.
1.Is more effective water cooling to cool the temperature?
2. Is a water cooler needs to be refilled with liquid cooling, if so, what time period the charging?
4.Many say the water cooler are particularly at risk of leakage is that correct?
5.i dont know can someone explain to me

because i want to buy, water cooler deepcool maelstrom 240T liquid cooler, I ask here because I think the more experienced members here,

And when I buy a water cooler if I Need to Purchase Additional liquid cooling?
 
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1. water cooling vs air cooling?

while there certainly can be a difference in some scenarios generally air cooling and water cooling perform similarly. air cooling is much cheaper for the same results as a water cooling loop would be. the benefit of water cooling however is that you can relocate the cooling components out of the way. for example, a cooler like the nh-d14 provides quite excellent cooling however is huge, ugly and hangs off the motherboard. while it may cost more a similar performance water cooler can be hooked up to the side of the case thereby relocating the bulk of the cooling components out of the way. this can be done for A) aesthetics, B) to avoid clearance issues with other components or C) because you feel the...
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1. water cooling vs air cooling?

while there certainly can be a difference in some scenarios generally air cooling and water cooling perform similarly. air cooling is much cheaper for the same results as a water cooling loop would be. the benefit of water cooling however is that you can relocate the cooling components out of the way. for example, a cooler like the nh-d14 provides quite excellent cooling however is huge, ugly and hangs off the motherboard. while it may cost more a similar performance water cooler can be hooked up to the side of the case thereby relocating the bulk of the cooling components out of the way. this can be done for A) aesthetics, B) to avoid clearance issues with other components or C) because you feel the weight hanging off the motherboard is a problem.

2. does it need to be recharged?

generally, no. in homebuilt water cooled loops it is suggested to have a fill/drain line as a just in case but unless there is leakage you should not have to refill. closed loop systems like you wanted to buy do not need to be touched by you.

3. ?

4. do they leak?

they should not leak if assembled correctly. doing a leak test however is suggested (run the cooler outside the system and test for leaks) before installing it in your system. there are also certain coolants used which are nonconductive in case there are leaks. there certainly are cases where leaking can occur and it is certainly a risk not found on air coolers but normally is not a problem in most cases.

5. explain to me?

the way any cooler works is to pass cold air over an array of fins to lower the temperature of components. in air cooling this is done with a block with fins situated above the cooler. in old designs it was part of the cpu block while in modern designs there are closed heat pipes conducting heat from the cpu to the fin array. colder air passes over the heatsinks dissipating the heat produced. liquid coolers move this array of fins off to a different location and instead of heat pipes use liquid and a pump to circulate that liquid to push heat from the cpu block to the fin array.

that liquid cooler should be fine for a cpu, just make sure it fits the socket layout of your motherboard and that it fits on two fan bays of your case.

you should not need to purchase any additional products such as liquid coolant, etc with that product.
 
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1. Yes, water cooling is more effective than traditional air cooling if the cooler setup is dependable and of good quality.

2. If you use an all in one (AIO) or closed loop cooler (CLC), there's no need to replenish the liquid. Refilling is only really necessary in full custom loop systems.

3. All water coolers are at risk of leakage. AIO or CLC systems from reputable manufacturers such as Corsair, EVGA, and many other brands are quality tested before leaving the manufacturing facility, and should never leak. That being said, it's not impossible to get a unit that may have been damaged in shipping or something. If you purchase an AIO or CLC just make sure that there's no visible signs of damage, and that all fittings are properly secured. I would recommend a cooler with the rubberized tubing instead of the plastic tubing, as it is less likely to develop a leak over time.

Personally, I wouldn't go with anything from Deepcool, which is a lesson I learned the hard way. I had a Deepcool Captain 120 in white installed on my system, and took it off for a MOBO/CPU swap, and when I remounted it to the new MOBO, the pump housing fractured while finger tightening the nuts to hold it down. I'm not saying that all Deepcool products are bad, or that they aren't reputable. I'm just saying that I myself won't trust my system to any more Deepcool products, or any products that utilize the pump's housing as points to secure the product to the motherboard, simply because they're prone to failure.

This is the cooler that I have now. It works wonderfully, and secures to the socket using a bracket that goes over the pump's housing on both AMD and Intel platforms.

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Hydro-Performance-Liquid-Cooler/dp/B00A0HZMGA
 
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Hi Leyha :) No need for Water Cooling unless you have an extreme system and intend to OC. To answer your questions:

1.Is more effective water cooling to cool the temperature?
It depends on what you want to do with your system. If your intent is to Overclock your CPU then yes an AIO water cooler of that size is more efficient. Small AIOs are no more effective than a cheap Air cooler.

2. Is a water cooler needs to be refilled with liquid cooling, if so, what time period the charging?
AIO Water Coolers like the one you listed are pre-filled with coolant and should not need refilling for the lifetime of the product.
It is with an Open Loop system where you have to buy coolant which are more prone to leakage if not done correctly.

3. Many say the water cooler are particularly at risk of leakage is that correct?
Some have reported leakages however this is rare but it can happen, so you should check the Warranty of the product as to whether it will cover any damage caused if it leaks.



 
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1. Not necessarily. Some air coolers outperform plenty of All-In-One (AIO) water coolers. Note: like MeanMachine says, if your intent is to overclock, some AIO's and especially a quality custom loop, will do a better job at keeping temps down than air coolers.
2. Depends. Most AIOs are self contained units which are built to last without the end user having to ever refill them. In most cases, they're based on Asetek patents and designs going back years. If the end user tampers with these, it will void their warranties. Some companies have made some AIO's that are expandable/refillable, which can be expanded into something resembling a custom loop.
4. Yes, absolutely. The risk of leaking and destroying components exists, be it by using cheap AIOs or very expensive custom loops. Many avoid watercooling due to the risk of leaking, especially when there are air coolers that perform as good or better than AIO water coolers.

There is plenty of information on watercooling on YT. Feel free to see what various channels have to say on the topic.
 
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20% OC on air dangerous? If going by only what you've listed above, I'd say possibly or probably. Would need detailed info on your system specs. There are many who have stable, modest overclocks using air coolers on Intel and AMD processors. If you're unfamiliar with OCing my suggestion would be to go over a basic guide, of which there are many on the web and YT. How useful OCing proves to be also depends on your system's other components to some extent, as well.
 
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trying to overclock in any single fan case is not a wise idea. the more heat you generate the more you need to remove from the case. a single fan case will not do that effectively and will be a hotbox. high temps can cause thermal throttling (lowering of performance, stuttering) or shut off (powering down completely) due to heat in worst case scenarios. that would not be good.

ideally, you would have a case with good airflow. there are certainly cheap cases which have many fan options to use if you need to have a more o/c friendly case.

as far as o/c performance, that depends on many factors including what hardware you have, what case, what cooler, what the ambient air temperature is, etc. some of the others here can help you with that stuff if you give them the details.
 
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